MVC - Predicted order of finish

[Snaggletooth]

WSU- I am not sure about this team....no ball handler.... no pg in the valley is ever a good thing....
UNI- They are still damn good...
Bradley- I am not sure....I really like maniscalco I just dont think the rest of their team is very good....
Indy State- Underrated...over the past few years many have underrated high talents that went there just because they went to Indy State.
Creighton- I like the post play
ISU red
Mo State
SIU
UE
Drake

Keen observation, Greenwell. The Shockers are desperate for a point guard.

And I am the one told he goes around picking fights.....nice maturity fat ass lol

You know what they say about people who laugh at their own jokes don't you?

RDR probably been called many things, but I don't think "fat ass" is one of them.

[Little Eddie]

Please translate the first portion of your sentence.

I understand the last portion.

Try to refrain from personal attacks. It is not becoming.

I'll agree w/ this...personal attacks/name calling are not welcome. There are better ways to address this...I would have done so by simply stating that despite the fact that I think WSU will have PG issues, I did pick them to win it all (which is what you did Greenwell). I, myself, am unsure of WSU PG strength, yet I chose them to be first in my prediction on the first page of this thread. I think it's the sort of thing you can overcome if you have enough talent at other positions...

[45otseoj]

Please translate the first portion of your sentence.

I understand the last portion.

Try to refrain from personal attacks. It is not becoming.

I'll agree w/ this...personal attacks/name calling are not welcome. There are better ways to address this...I would have done so by simply stating that despite the fact that I think WSU will have PG issues, I did pick them to win it all (which is what you did Greenwell). I, myself, am unsure of WSU PG strength, yet I chose them to be first in my prediction on the first page of this thread. I think it's the sort of thing you can overcome if you have enough talent at other positions...

WSU will have the best PG combo in the league.

[valleychamp]

There is no way Creighton wins the MVC, IMO.

[Shockerfan13]

There is no way Creighton wins the MVC, IMO.

Typically strong guard/swing play is what wins the Valley. So I agree with you. Plus, I think there are some bigs in the Valley that will neutralize Echenique and Lawson. At least enough to where they won't dominate.

I'm not dismissing the fact that they may end up being 2 of the better bigs in the league...just don't think that is what would bring a Valley championship to Creighton.

[45otseoj]

There is no way Creighton wins the MVC, IMO.

Typically strong guard/swing play is what wins the Valley. So I agree with you. Plus, I think there are some bigs in the Valley that will neutralize Echenique and Lawson. At least enough to where they won't dominate.

I'm not dismissing the fact that they may end up being 2 of the better bigs in the league...just don't think that is what would bring a Valley championship to Creighton.

Shox have alot of fouls to neutralized CU with Stutz, Durley, and Blair. CU can't match WSU's guards.

[Little Eddie]

Please translate the first portion of your sentence.

I understand the last portion.

Try to refrain from personal attacks. It is not becoming.

I'll agree w/ this...personal attacks/name calling are not welcome. There are better ways to address this...I would have done so by simply stating that despite the fact that I think WSU will have PG issues, I did pick them to win it all (which is what you did Greenwell). I, myself, am unsure of WSU PG strength, yet I chose them to be first in my prediction on the first page of this thread. I think it's the sort of thing you can overcome if you have enough talent at other positions...

WSU will have the best PG combo in the league.

I'll admit to being uninformed about WSU's PGs...all I know is that they lost their senior PG...they have a now soph PG coming back along w/ a newcomer that I don't know anything about. I think the two Jake's at ISU may have something to say about being the best PG combo in the league (Kelley and Odum that is).

[SubGod22]

Williams (SO) showed a lot over the last month or so of the season and some believed he was out playing Hannah in some aspects. Not sure he can fill Hannah's leadership role, but he doesn't have to. He's quicker, faster and stronger than Hannah. Plays better defense and his decision making has greatly improved along with his ability to create for himself and others. I'm not too worried. Also, he shoots the ball quite well.

The new guy, Ragland, was a 1st team JUCO All-American which has some people excited. He's also faster, quicker and stronger than Hannah and shoots very well from deep. Those who've seen him play like very much what he brings to the table and I've heard some say he's a natural leader. I understand you can never be too sure about JUCO guys until they play but I for one am not worried.

Add to that the capable play of Murry, Hatch and Kyles who are capable of running the point if needed and that isn't a concern whatsoever amongst Wichita State fans.

[Little Eddie]

Williams (SO) showed a lot over the last month or so of the season and some believed he was out playing Hannah in some aspects. Not sure he can fill Hannah's leadership role, but he doesn't have to. He's quicker, faster and stronger than Hannah. Plays better defense and his decision making has greatly improved along with his ability to create for himself and others. I'm not too worried. Also, he shoots the ball quite well.

The new guy, Ragland, was a 1st team JUCO All-American which has some people excited. He's also faster, quicker and stronger than Hannah and shoots very well from deep. Those who've seen him play like very much what he brings to the table and I've heard some say he's a natural leader. I understand you can never be too sure about JUCO guys until they play but I for one am not worried.

Add to that the capable play of Murry, Hatch and Kyles who are capable of running the point if needed and that isn't a concern whatsoever amongst Wichita State fans.

Definitely sounds good the way you describe them...no matter how you slice it, I think it's gonna be a fun year in the Valley...but I do think there will be parody which may, in turn, hurt the conference during the regular season. The key will be for the Valley to do damage during non-con games...otherwise we'll be screwed again in terms of at large chances.

[45otseoj]

I think the two Jake's at ISU may have something to say about being the best PG combo in the league (Kelley and Odum that is).

I'll take DW and a JUCO All-American over a redshirt freshman and a 6'6 kid with a bad knee. That may just be me though...