Standings after 17 games

by **Aces1982** » February 22nd, 2012, 8:54 pm

Wichita St.......15-2
Creighton........13-4
Missouri St.......9-8
Drake.............9-8
Illinois St.........8-9
Evansville........8-9
UNI................8-9
Indiana St........8-9
SIU................5-12
Bradley...........2-15

2/25
Drake @ Wichita St
Illinois St @ Bradley
Missouri St @ Evansville
UNI @ SIU
Creighton @ Indiana St

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by **BirdmanBB** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:07 pm

So let's say this happens....

16-2 WSU
14-4 CU
9-9 MSU
9-9 DU
9-9 ISUr
9-9 EU
9-9 UNI
8-10 ISUb
5-13 SIU
2-16 BU

Who gets Thursday?

by **Bear4Life** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:09 pm

BirdmanBB wrote:So let's say this happens....

16-2 WSU
14-4 CU
9-9 MSU
9-9 DU
9-9 ISUr
9-9 EU
9-9 UNI
8-10 ISUb
5-13 SIU
2-16 BU

Who gets Thursday?

Not positive, but I'm pretty sure it would come out with Drake as 7th

by **isumvc1** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:09 pm

BirdmanBB wrote:So let's say this happens....

16-2 WSU
13-5 CU
9-9 MSU
9-9 DU
9-9 ISUr
9-9 UE
9-9 UNI
9-9 ISUb
5-13 SIU
2-16 BU

Who gets Thursday?

or if THIS happens?

by **Bear4Life** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:12 pm

isumvc1 wrote:
BirdmanBB wrote:So let's say this happens....

16-2 WSU
13-5 CU
9-9 MSU
9-9 DU
9-9 ISUr
9-9 UE
9-9 UNI
9-9 ISUb
5-13 SIU
2-16 BU

Who gets Thursday?

or if THIS happens?

Again, not positive (need Hacksaw to verify), but I actually have INDIANA STATE as 3RD in that scenario and MSU - Drake in the play-in-game...

by **Jet915** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:14 pm

Bear4Life wrote:
isumvc1 wrote:
BirdmanBB wrote:So let's say this happens....

16-2 WSU
13-5 CU
9-9 MSU
9-9 DU
9-9 ISUr
9-9 UE
9-9 UNI
9-9 ISUb
5-13 SIU
2-16 BU

Who gets Thursday?

Again, not positive (need Hacksaw to verify), but I actually have INDIANA STATE as 3RD in that scenario and MSU - Drake in the play-in-game...

If that's correct, that means ISUB can potentially go from 3rd to 8th based on if they win or lose on Saturday? Crazy!

by **Aces1982** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:15 pm

If
MSU, DU, ISU, UE, UNI, ISU-B all finish 9-9 then I THINK:

Round Robin:
MSU (4-6)
Drake (4-6)
ISU-R (6-4)
UE (5-5)
UNI (5-5)
ISU-B (6-4)

SO it would go. I think
3) ISU-B
4) ISU-R
5) UE
6) UNI
7) MSU
8) DU

AGAIN, THIS MAY NOT BE 100%

by **Bear4Life** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:18 pm

Aces1982 wrote:If
MSU, DU, ISU, UE, UNI, ISU-B all finish 9-9 then I THINK:

Round Robin:
MSU (4-6)
Drake (4-6)
ISU-R (6-4)
UE (5-5)
UNI (5-5)
ISU-B (6-4)

SO it would go. I think
3) ISU-B
4) ISU-R
5) UE
6) UNI
7) MSU
8) DU

AGAIN, THIS MAY NOT BE 100%

I think you nailed it, except UNI would be the 5 due to better NCSS. Otherwise I have them same.

by **Aces1982** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:20 pm

IF MSU, DU, ISU-R, UE and UNI all go 9-9 then:

Round Robin
MSU (3-5)
DU (3-5)
ISU-R (5-3)
UE (5-3)
UNI (4-4)

Then standings would be:
3) UE
4) ISU-R
5) UNI
6) MSU
7) DU

by **pafan** » February 22nd, 2012, 9:21 pm

In BirdmanBB's 5-way tie scenario, the multi-way tie goes to a mini round robin.

Wins in that Round Robin would be:
3) 5-3 UE
4) 5-3 ISUr
5) 4-4 UNI
6) 3-5 MSU
7) 3-5 DU

Now, there are two theories here:
My theory assumes that this 5-way tie has been broken into two 2-way ties by the round robin. In that case the seedings would be as indicated above because:
The tie between ISUr and UE (1-1 head to head) goes to NC SOS, likely winner is UE.
The tie between MSU and DU would be won by MSU on account of sweeping the Bulldogs.

The second theory (used in Hacksaw's charts) is that the five way tie is not "broken" by the mini-round-robin (there are still four teams in a tie of some sort) so the non-conference SoS comes in immediately. In that case, the seedings would probably be (based on this and lifted from TPC):
3) UNI
4) MSU
5) DU
6) UE
7) ISUr