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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby DoubleJayAlum » March 7th, 2012, 12:55 pm

At Creighton we have no money in our recruiting budget. As a result, we've just grabbed a couple of kids from Omaha and try to snag kids from Valley cities when we are in town for games or passing through on the way to games. So far we've nabbed them from Des Moines and Branson and Minnesota (i.e., essentially Northern Iowa). Watch out Wichita and Peoria, you're next! We did enroll in some international exchange student program which gave us kids from Venezuela and Canada. Luckily coach had a kid of his own or we may not have been able to afford to field a team.

I'm not sure how we recruited the three Texas kids. They must have been related to a coach or something.
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby getreal4 » March 7th, 2012, 1:36 pm

Would expect that EVille & Drake have the two lowest Men's BB Budgets, guesstimate $1.2 mil ??? And both have very small recruiting budgets.

The tight budgets hurt recruiting, assistant coaches, scheduling, etc. Extremely tough to keep good young asst coaches at below market salaries and cheap expense reimbursements. Also hard to get max effort and enthusiasm from underpaid, overworked staff. Need personal sacrifice from the staff at our small schools to compete with the luxuries of Wichita St.
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby unipanther99 » March 7th, 2012, 1:54 pm

Greg McDermott's salary should be included as part of Creighton's recruiting budget. 8-)
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby Khan4Cats » March 7th, 2012, 1:55 pm

uniftw wrote:UNI may have a bigger budget than we use, but it's there if we want to use it.

Most of Jakes players come from a 2-8 hour range of CF.

Pflugerville, TX
Cedarburg, WI (4.5 hrs, just north of Milwaukee)
Marion, IA (1 hour)
Sheffield, IA (1 hour)
St. Louis Park, MN (3 hours SW side of Minneaplis)
Alogonquin, IL (4 hours...about an hour west of Chicago)
Charles City, IA (1 hour)
Ashwaubenon, WI (5 hours...."suburb" of Green Bay)
Solon, IA (1 hour)
St. Paul, MN (3 hours)
Cedar Rapis, IA (1 hour)
Kansas City, MO (4 hours)
Glenwood, IL (4.5 hours, south side of Chicago)(recruited from a prep school an hour from CF)
Cedar Falls, IA(5 minutes from campus if you hit the traffic lights wrong)
Sac City, IA (2 hours)
St. Louis, MO (4.5 hours)


Some recent recruits that have been big time players for UNI are 3 more from the same high school in St. Paul as Marc Sonnen (Kwadzo, Erik Crawford, Eric Coleman). Travis Brown is from Richfiled, MN (Minneapolis). Lucas O'Rear is from Nashville, IL (6 hours), Adam Koch was Ashwaubenon, and Bennett (the younger Koch, class of 13) is coming to UNI, Sioux City (4.5 hours)....

Many more from that same time range


I think this is one of the key factors in recruiting as well: distance

I know Jake does a lot to try and build a family atmosphere with the team and that includes involving the players' parents/family. If you recruit kids from too far away, it becomes a burden for their families to travel to games. Pretty much every player on UNI is able to have family present at every home game. That can be as big of a recruiting tool as a private jet capable of flying a coach to meet a kid halfway across the country if the kid knows his parents won't be able to attend very many games during their careers.

Of course, you could probably use your private jet to go and pick up their family members as long as the NCAA doesn't catch you doing it.
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby Ace Dad » March 7th, 2012, 3:43 pm

DoubleJayAlum wrote:At Creighton we have no money in our recruiting budget. As a result, we've just grabbed a couple of kids from Omaha and try to snag kids from Valley cities when we are in town for games or passing through on the way to games. So far we've nabbed them from Des Moines and Branson and Minnesota (i.e., essentially Northern Iowa). Watch out Wichita and Peoria, you're next! We did enroll in some international exchange student program which gave us kids from Venezuela and Canada. Luckily coach had a kid of his own or we may not have been able to afford to field a team.

I'm not sure how we recruited the three Texas kids. They must have been related to a coach or something.



Seriously, what is your budget? Any idea?
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby DUBulldog » March 7th, 2012, 4:07 pm

getreal4 wrote:Would expect that EVille & Drake have the two lowest Men's BB Budgets...And both have very small recruiting budgets.


If Drake's recruiting budget is so small, how has Phelps landed players from all over the country? Not many players on the roster from within the geographical area of the MVC.
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby getreal4 » March 7th, 2012, 10:37 pm

DUBulldog wrote:
getreal4 wrote:Would expect that EVille & Drake have the two lowest Men's BB Budgets...And both have very small recruiting budgets.


If Drake's recruiting budget is so small, how has Phelps landed players from all over the country? Not many players on the roster from within the geographical area of the MVC.


IMO, 2008 success, coaching connections, ability to identify MVC level talent, hard work, and some good luck.
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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby iSASO » March 7th, 2012, 10:55 pm

Khan4Cats wrote:
uniftw wrote:UNI may have a bigger budget than we use, but it's there if we want to use it.

Most of Jakes players come from a 2-8 hour range of CF.



I think this is one of the key factors in recruiting as well: distance

I know Jake does a lot to try and build a family atmosphere with the team and that includes involving the players' parents/family. If you recruit kids from too far away, it becomes a burden for their families to travel to games. Pretty much every player on UNI is able to have family present at every home game. That can be as big of a recruiting tool as a private jet capable of flying a coach to meet a kid halfway across the country if the kid knows his parents won't be able to attend very many games during their careers.

Of course, you could probably use your private jet to go and pick up their family members as long as the NCAA doesn't catch you doing it.


I must admit, WSU has no semblance of a family atmosphere in the program and you can really tell from the performance on the court. Maybe instead of running all over the country chasing down all the bad kids currently on the roster, we should just run down Highway 81 twenty minutes south of campus and fill the roster with players from Haysville.
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Maybe then we would have Joshua 1:9 posted in the locker room for every home and away game and maybe it would be recited by the team prior to every game. Maybe these Haysville kids would meet at Garrett Stutz's apartment for Bible study frequently. Maybe the Haysville kids would carry a 3.8 gpa in Engineering or be an Academic All-American.

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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby uniftw » March 8th, 2012, 9:59 am

DoubleJayAlum wrote:I'm not sure how we recruited the three Texas kids. They must have been related to a coach or something.

Was their dad looking for a new job? :Violin: :Violin:


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Re: MVC School Recruiting Budgets

Postby uniftw » March 8th, 2012, 10:00 am

getreal4 wrote:
DUBulldog wrote:
getreal4 wrote:Would expect that EVille & Drake have the two lowest Men's BB Budgets...And both have very small recruiting budgets.


If Drake's recruiting budget is so small, how has Phelps landed players from all over the country? Not many players on the roster from within the geographical area of the MVC.


IMO, 2008 success, coaching connections, ability to identify MVC level talent, hard work, and some good luck.

Given the age of their best players, and the average time it takes for a big run to pay off in recruiting, the bolded part seems about right.
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