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Ace Dad wrote:I love both these guys.

They are BOTH winners! Shockers are fortunate to have them together for 2 and a half more years!

If WSU fans put all the national articles about VanVleet or Baker in this thread, it would be overkill, but I thought I'd add this one

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/1/17/5317604/fred-van-vleet-stats-wichita-state

The Shockers lead the MVC in shooting defense in conference games, holding opponents to 38.3 percent. VanVleet is averaging 16.6 points in Valley games. His assist-to-turnover ratio of 9.0 in confernence games is first, leading second-place Odum’s 3.9. VanVleet has 27 assists and three turnovers in MVC play.


Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/01/17/323512 ... rylink=cpy

ShoxNAwe wrote:The Shockers lead the MVC in shooting defense in conference games, holding opponents to 38.3 percent. VanVleet is averaging 16.6 points in Valley games. His assist-to-turnover ratio of 9.0 in confernence games is first, leading second-place Odum’s 3.9. VanVleet has 27 assists and three turnovers in MVC play.


Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/01/17/323512 ... rylink=cpy

Sample size is too small.

Noticed an interesting line in the recent Sports Illustrated profile on Fred Van Vleet:

His Win Shares total – an estimation of how many victories a player’s offensive and defensive contributions are worth – is 4.6, seventh in the country. By comparison, Creighton’s Doug McDermott has a Win Shares total of 4.5.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/0 ... ana-state/

I couldn't find a complete list of win-shares for every player in the country but I found the top 20 at least:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sea ... aders.html

Looks like FVV has improved to 4.7 since the article was written, but he's now tied with McDermott for 9th place.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find Lemon's win-share numbers, or his SI profile, to compare >=)

25 pts 6 rebs 3 assists 1 steal on 10 of 16 shooting 2 for 4 from down town!

WLJ! WLJ! WLJ!

Bradleyfan1 wrote:25 pts 6 rebs 3 assists 1 steal on 10 of 16 shooting 2 for 4 from down town!

WLJ! WLJ! WLJ!

and at the end of the day still plays for a team with a losing record and one of the worst bottom feeder programs in the NCAA

Cute.

Bradleyfan1 wrote:25 pts 6 rebs 3 assists 1 steal on 10 of 16 shooting 2 for 4 from down town!

WLJ! WLJ! WLJ!

I'd like the link to his SportsIllustrated profile article >=)

Saving that for March!