Ranking the recruiting classes

[Wufan]

Deng and 6'8" 255 Djemde will NOT be any kind of Offensive force but now, finally, SIU has a couple of goal defenders when our guards get beat on the perimeter. Faulker was that sort for our good teams. Leek already has a ok jump hook so if he can make that consistent we'll be pretty good. Frankly I'm more worried about who will take up some of Dez Jackson's offensive slack

SIU will have to be better defensively without Des. I like the top 3-5 guards in Carbondale, so if they can put appropriately sided players at the 3 and 4, they'll be okay.

[jturner38]

With so many unknowns from the sycamores this upcoming season thought I post this article as basis to get valley fans a little idea of the newcomers. Now it really doesn't mean anything since it was just one short practice but it's a start.

http://www.tribstar.com/toddgolden/x998 ... edir=false

[Aargh]

In the biggest recruiting class (in both size and numbers) I've ever seen, WSU's new players next year (including both incoming students and guys coming off red shirt years) go like this:

(Expected primary position listed first for combo players)

7'0" C- JuCo
*6'10" C, 240 - 1 year post-HS prep school - ranked #35 (nationally) at his position
6'9" PF - Recruiting BLEW UP late in the process - turned down offers from ACC, B1G, Pac12, SEC
6'8" - PF JuCo
6'7", 250 PF/C - Red shirt - dropped 30 pounds from the weight he played at in HS.
*6'7" SF/SG?? - PG on the post-HS prep team the 6'10" guy played on
6'7" PF - 1 year post-HS prep (Hargrave Military) - several national all-star teams, AAU - DC Assault
6'3" PG - His Dad was his HS coach in Dallas. Marshall expects he will be the #2 PG on the roster.
6'0" SG/PG - Red shirt

5 Fr who will be a year older than you'd expect Fr to be.

* These guys played 15 games against JuCo teams last year. They played for Sunrise Christian Academy, which is in a little suburb on the north edge of Wichita. Sunrise consistently puts most of their players in D1 ball - typically in leagues ranked above the Valley.

[Aargh]

Those of you good at math can see WSU has 9 players in addition to 5 returning that played last year. That has led many WSU fans to scratching their heads. This little tidbit was found while researching some NCAA rules.

Any player receiving financial aid who was recruited by an institution counts against the scholarship limit of 13, regardless of the source of the financial aid. The NCAA describes "recruited" as either 1) Contact with the recruit off-campus (watching or scouting is OK, just can't make contact) or 2) An official visit to the college. Any number of unofficial visits are allowed.

Rauno Nurger (6'10" post player) played for a prep school less than 5 miles from the WSU campus and had not been recruited by WSU because he had committed to Ole Miss. He was released from that commitment late, so there may not have been any off-campus contact. He was the roommate of a WSU commit who was on campus and working out with the team last summer, and then took a year at prep school so he wouldn't have to sit a year behind WSU's perimeter players.

Nurger could hit the loophole and not be counted against WSU's scholarship limit. Tht would still leave the issue of finding other financial aid (academic, etc.) that he could qualify for.

[Aargh]

Early reports from summer scrimmages are showing up. Reports from summer are typically positive past reality, but the reports for WSU this year are more upbeat than I've seen previously.

Eric Hamilton (6'9" PF) is said to be as athletic as Early was. He's said to be better at driving to the hoop than Early was when he arrived on campus. Hamilton is reported to have no hesitation to shoot a 3 - and makes a decent percentage of them. He's also still rumored to be candidate for a year of prep school or to take red shirt.

There has been some confusion about Zach Brown (6'7" wing) and Rashard Kelley (6'7" PF). One of them ( I suspect it's Kelley) is a true stretch 4. Bangs down low, hits from outside, and takes it to the hoop off the dribble.

Lots of good comments about Corey Henderson (6'3" PG) from observers, players, and Marshall.

Wamukota (7' post) is said to be ahead of where Orukpe was at similar times - better hands - better knowledge of what to do with the ball when he has it. Has some post moves, is an aggressive shot-blocker and rebounder.

Baker is driving to the hoop from the perimeter and stuffing a lot of drives and rebounds. Baker was shooting 3's from 20' - 25' in the background of a 4-minute interview with Marshall. He was hitting over 80% - although that was unguarded.

VanVleet may be more deceptive and may have improved his athleticism. Observers say he's put his game past where it was last year.

Before Baker ever played a game, observers said he was the best shooter on the team. Ri'an Holland (6'0" SG/PG) may be getting the same comments, even with Baker still playing.

[AndShock]

Those of you good at math can see WSU has 9 players in addition to 5 returning that played last year. That has led many WSU fans to scratching their heads. This little tidbit was found while researching some NCAA rules.

Any player receiving financial aid who was recruited by an institution counts against the scholarship limit of 13, regardless of the source of the financial aid. The NCAA describes "recruited" as either 1) Contact with the recruit off-campus (watching or scouting is OK, just can't make contact) or 2) An official visit to the college. Any number of unofficial visits are allowed.

Rauno Nurger (6'10" post player) played for a prep school less than 5 miles from the WSU campus and had not been recruited by WSU because he had committed to Ole Miss. He was released from that commitment late, so there may not have been any off-campus contact. He was the roommate of a WSU commit who was on campus and working out with the team last summer, and then took a year at prep school so he wouldn't have to sit a year behind WSU's perimeter players.

Nurger could hit the loophole and not be counted against WSU's scholarship limit. Tht would still leave the issue of finding other financial aid (academic, etc.) that he could qualify for.

Bring on the posts accusing Wichita State of cheating. Add this to paying Carl Hall $20,000 and having dealerships feeding money to Ron Baker, Malcom Armstead, and Kadeem Coleby it will be a miracle if we go another 5 years without seeing the death penalty.

[stl scooter]

Those of you good at math can see WSU has 9 players in addition to 5 returning that played last year. That has led many WSU fans to scratching their heads. This little tidbit was found while researching some NCAA rules.

Any player receiving financial aid who was recruited by an institution counts against the scholarship limit of 13, regardless of the source of the financial aid. The NCAA describes "recruited" as either 1) Contact with the recruit off-campus (watching or scouting is OK, just can't make contact) or 2) An official visit to the college. Any number of unofficial visits are allowed.

Rauno Nurger (6'10" post player) played for a prep school less than 5 miles from the WSU campus and had not been recruited by WSU because he had committed to Ole Miss. He was released from that commitment late, so there may not have been any off-campus contact. He was the roommate of a WSU commit who was on campus and working out with the team last summer, and then took a year at prep school so he wouldn't have to sit a year behind WSU's perimeter players.

Nurger could hit the loophole and not be counted against WSU's scholarship limit. Tht would still leave the issue of finding other financial aid (academic, etc.) that he could qualify for.

Bring on the posts accusing Wichita State of cheating. Add this to paying Carl Hall $20,000 and having dealerships feeding money to Ron Baker, Malcom Armstead, and Kadeem Coleby it will be a miracle if we go another 5 years without seeing the death penalty.

Aargh's post was up for 4 days, and nobody said anything about cheating...until your post.

[Wufan]

Aargh's post was up for 4 days, and nobody said anything about cheating...until your post.

A specific call out of Tribecalledquest, but I can't figure out why.

[AndShock]

Those of you good at math can see WSU has 9 players in addition to 5 returning that played last year. That has led many WSU fans to scratching their heads. This little tidbit was found while researching some NCAA rules.

Any player receiving financial aid who was recruited by an institution counts against the scholarship limit of 13, regardless of the source of the financial aid. The NCAA describes "recruited" as either 1) Contact with the recruit off-campus (watching or scouting is OK, just can't make contact) or 2) An official visit to the college. Any number of unofficial visits are allowed.

Rauno Nurger (6'10" post player) played for a prep school less than 5 miles from the WSU campus and had not been recruited by WSU because he had committed to Ole Miss. He was released from that commitment late, so there may not have been any off-campus contact. He was the roommate of a WSU commit who was on campus and working out with the team last summer, and then took a year at prep school so he wouldn't have to sit a year behind WSU's perimeter players.

Nurger could hit the loophole and not be counted against WSU's scholarship limit. Tht would still leave the issue of finding other financial aid (academic, etc.) that he could qualify for.

Bring on the posts accusing Wichita State of cheating. Add this to paying Carl Hall $20,000 and having dealerships feeding money to Ron Baker, Malcom Armstead, and Kadeem Coleby it will be a miracle if we go another 5 years without seeing the death penalty.

Aargh's post was up for 4 days, and nobody said anything about cheating...until your post.

No one said anything about WSU cheating either when Baker, Armstead, or Coleby were sitting out either. The first accusation I saw was after the Final Four and during the undefeated season, funny how that works.

[jturner38]

Here is a video on 5 of our newcomers. There hasnt been anything on our 2 redhsirts from last year yet, Brenton Scott and Alex Etherington.
http://wthitv.com/2014/07/03/meet-the-sycamores/