underdawg wrote:Actually, when Beane switched to Point guard from Shooting guard with 15 games to go is when he blossomed--look for him to be our PG this year too,
jturner38 wrote:How bout we just do best 5 for each position? PG, SG, SF, PF, C
Now for athletes who play more than 1 position you choose between what they play the most or what they play better at. Now this just for returning players.
Cdizzle wrote:Championz wrote:Ballentine is the best spot-up shooter.
Beane is probably the best scorer.
Baker is the best all-around player.
This is a more reasoned approach than most have taken, so it's a little easier to get behind. I'd like to see another full year of Beane, as he came on SO strong at the end of last year. It will also be interesting to see how Baker does as more of a 'feature' scorer this year. Some of his numbers might go up, but his efficiency's might drop.
Most of the advanced offensive statistics actually favor Baker slightly over the other two, while the non-offensive statistics are pretty heavily in his favor. I enjoy looking here for these types of comparisons: http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... =ron-baker
At any rate, just looking at all these guys gives me hope that the league will be MUCH improved this year. Lots of talented guards becoming upperclassmen and being joined by decent-looking prospects.
Wufan wrote:uniftw wrote: He had a rough start to the season, and at one point was at something like 12% from 3 about 8 games into the season. That tells you how how he got, and stayed, the rest of the season.
I don't think this is applicable to your post since the stats presented were for conference games only. Another nice 2 guard though.
jturner38 wrote:How bout we just do best 5 for each position? PG, SG, SF, PF, C
Now for athletes who play more than 1 position you choose between what they play the most or what they play better at. Now this just for returning players.
uniftw wrote:I won't make a case for Matt Bohannon to be the best all round SG in the league, because he isn't. He is, however, likely the best pure shooter.
In conference play Matt Bohannon had a true shooting % of 63.8 (Beane was next at 59.3), was 2nd in effective FG percent at 63.1 (none of the others mentioned in top 10), had the most threes made (by double digits), was 2nd in 3pt % (45% and 46 for the season) He had a rough start to the season, and at one point was at something like 12% from 3 about 8 games into the season. That tells you how how he got, and stayed, the rest of the season.
glm38 wrote:uniftw wrote:I won't make a case for Matt Bohannon to be the best all round SG in the league, because he isn't. He is, however, likely the best pure shooter.
In conference play Matt Bohannon had a true shooting % of 63.8 (Beane was next at 59.3), was 2nd in effective FG percent at 63.1 (none of the others mentioned in top 10), had the most threes made (by double digits), was 2nd in 3pt % (45% and 46 for the season) He had a rough start to the season, and at one point was at something like 12% from 3 about 8 games into the season. That tells you how how he got, and stayed, the rest of the season.
I agree that from what I've seen of him Bohannon is a fine shooter. But I doubt he's better than the Bears Austin Ruder. Ruders shooting percentage wasn't as good but he hit some huge shots for us and a lot of them were under tremendous pressure. Ruder is such a good shooter he was definitely a "marked man" even as a freshman. I remember both Hinson and Marshall yelling at SIU and WSU respectively to NEVER give him an open look. Hinson called it his "where's Waldo" approach.
glm38 wrote:uniftw wrote:I won't make a case for Matt Bohannon to be the best all round SG in the league, because he isn't. He is, however, likely the best pure shooter.
In conference play Matt Bohannon had a true shooting % of 63.8 (Beane was next at 59.3), was 2nd in effective FG percent at 63.1 (none of the others mentioned in top 10), had the most threes made (by double digits), was 2nd in 3pt % (45% and 46 for the season) He had a rough start to the season, and at one point was at something like 12% from 3 about 8 games into the season. That tells you how how he got, and stayed, the rest of the season.
I agree that from what I've seen of him Bohannon is a fine shooter. But I doubt he's better than the Bears Austin Ruder. Ruders shooting percentage wasn't as good but he hit some huge shots for us and a lot of them were under tremendous pressure. Ruder is such a good shooter he was definitely a "marked man" even as a freshman. I remember both Hinson and Marshall yelling at SIU and WSU respectively to NEVER give him an open look. Hinson called it his "where's Waldo" approach.
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