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Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 1st, 2014, 9:57 am
by wgslaw
Wichita State will most likely start Van Fleet, Baker, Cotton, Carter and Wamukota the 7 foot Juco center. Glass at 6’7 who is another Juco recruit will probably play a lot at 3 or 4. I wonder how much time the two RSF, Morris and Holland, will get due to the loaded freshman class.

The freshman are Eric Hamilton from Georgia-6’9 and still growing and a tremendous talent; Nurger from Estonia-a mature 6’10 who should contribute immediately and looks like a top flight MVC big man; Rashad Kelly from Virginia-6’7 PF who doesn't have much video but a lot of props; Zach Brown-6’7 SG from Houston who is athletic and with big time range; and Corey Henderson from Dallas-6’2 point guard who will probably spell Van Fleet. Nurger, Kelly and Brown are all prep school players. Two are from Sunrise Christian which is a prep factory loaded with high level D1 talent. It is a whole team-and a good one. With Marshall, you rebound and play defense or you don't play. Be that as it may, take a look at these videos of Hamilton, Nurger and Brown and explain to me how these kids are going to sit.

http://www.cityleaguehoops.net/2013/10/ ... -sleepers/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4r-ZBCMXs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEe3ixBTdvA

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 1st, 2014, 10:13 am
by ahunte1
If I had to guess Loyola's starting 5, it would be:

1. White
2. Doyle
3. Crisman/Ingram
4. Thomas
5. Jones (?)

But, with all the newcomers, it's hard to say. White, Doyle, and Thomas are the three I'm certain of.

Off the bench you have Turk, JUCO transfer Earl Peterson, and freshman Ben Richardson at guard. And, you have JUCO Montel James, freshman Rajala from Finland, and freshman Jay Knuth at forward.

If the guards off the bench can provide rest for Doyle and White, and if one or two of the big men can play right away (rebound), it's an improved team. Maybe out of Thursday night?

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 1st, 2014, 7:32 pm
by Wufan
ahunte1 wrote:If I had to guess Loyola's starting 5, it would be:

1. White
2. Doyle
3. Crisman/Ingram
4. Thomas
5. Jones (?)

But, with all the newcomers, it's hard to say. White, Doyle, and Thomas are the three I'm certain of.

Off the bench you have Turk, JUCO transfer Earl Peterson, and freshman Ben Richardson at guard. And, you have JUCO Montel James, freshman Rajala from Finland, and freshman Jay Knuth at forward.

If the guards off the bench can provide rest for Doyle and White, and if one or two of the big men can play right away (rebound), it's an improved team. Maybe out of Thursday night?


It's really hard to predict how teams will perform next year with all the new/unseen talent. I think Loyola will be improved, but I don't see them skipping Thursday this year. SIU, Bradley, ISUr and Evansville all look to be improved as well. Drake looks like a Thursday team. ISUb won't fall from second to 7th or worse most likely. MSU should be decent. I'm just not seeing it for Loyola.

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 2nd, 2014, 2:54 pm
by jturner38
Wufan wrote:
ahunte1 wrote:If I had to guess Loyola's starting 5, it would be:

1. White
2. Doyle
3. Crisman/Ingram
4. Thomas
5. Jones (?)

But, with all the newcomers, it's hard to say. White, Doyle, and Thomas are the three I'm certain of.

Off the bench you have Turk, JUCO transfer Earl Peterson, and freshman Ben Richardson at guard. And, you have JUCO Montel James, freshman Rajala from Finland, and freshman Jay Knuth at forward.

If the guards off the bench can provide rest for Doyle and White, and if one or two of the big men can play right away (rebound), it's an improved team. Maybe out of Thursday night?


It's really hard to predict how teams will perform next year with all the new/unseen talent. I think Loyola will be improved, but I don't see them skipping Thursday this year. SIU, Bradley, ISUr and Evansville all look to be improved as well. Drake looks like a Thursday team. ISUb won't fall from second to 7th or worse most likely. MSU should be decent. I'm just not seeing it for Loyola.


I agree with you I just dont see ISUb falling that far. Coach Lansing can coach and with a go to guy like Khristian Smith and hopefully a consistent Justin Gant I see 6th at worst 3rd/4th at best but wouldnt be that suprised if they made a push for 2nd. It happened JO's freshman year against Mo st for 1st.

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 2nd, 2014, 3:23 pm
by siudawgs
If I could get action in Vegas, I would plunk some coin down on Indiana State being a Thursday team in an improved MVC 2014-15. You win with guards in the MVC, and Indiana State's backcourt isn't going to measure up real favorably. Frontcourt is solid but not spectacular.

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 2nd, 2014, 4:01 pm
by Wufan
siudawgs wrote:If I could get action in Vegas, I would plunk some coin down on Indiana State being a Thursday team in an improved MVC 2014-15. You win with guards in the MVC, and Indiana State's backcourt isn't going to measure up real favorably. Frontcourt is solid but not spectacular.


I think the Sycamores have some nice back court talent coming in. We will see how they adjust to D-I games.

Re: Starters and Bench

PostPosted: July 3rd, 2014, 8:55 am
by jturner38
siudawgs wrote:If I could get action in Vegas, I would plunk some coin down on Indiana State being a Thursday team in an improved MVC 2014-15. You win with guards in the MVC, and Indiana State's backcourt isn't going to measure up real favorably. Frontcourt is solid but not spectacular.


Id take some of that action in Vegas and would put some Cash down that they wont be a Thursday Team. Really the starting 5 wont/shouldnt be a problem. It's going to come down to bench production. Which is unknown for the Sycamores at this point.