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Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: July 28th, 2014, 11:01 am
by uniftw
Born2Shock wrote:
uniftw wrote:He has been very productive in the minutes he's played in his career. Sadly he is 2 inches to short to be a true post and doesn't shooter/dribble quite well enough to be a 3. I don't know that the staff knew what to do with him until it was too late. He was, by far, the most college ready body that's ever come into the program and they didn't know if they wanted him to be a wing or post.

He will likely see a decent amount of minutes at the 4 in a smaller line up as the dept the team has 1-3.

Friedman and Koch will back Tuttle up at the 5 and share those minutes.


I don't think anyone has said Koch is going to be anything other than a spot role player this season. Going forward there is every reason to believe he can/will grow into what his brothers were.

Most of the talk about him in this thread, prior to whomever it was going sarcastic douche, was about how he has progressed. No body has mentioned him in the context of even being NOY. It was said he needed the redshirt year to work on his body and then growing his game would be this year and next year.

The reality is he will probably be well into his rSo season before being anything more than a role/situational player. However, he has a very high ceiling...he just happens to have a starting floor than some.[/quote]

High ceiling compared to who? Early? Baker? Or Adam Wing? The defintion of high ceiling has changed the past few years. I know the summer is the season of eternal optimism. For the Valley, I hope he IS really good.
His ceiling is higher than his brothers were. Is that NBA? Probably not. Is it pretty high, even by Valley standards? Well...one was a POY and the other is one of 2 players in conference history with 1,000 pts, 600 rbs, 100 3-pointers, 100 assists, 100 blocks and 100 steals.

However, like has been said, he is starting from a little lower floor than those two in terms of being college ready.

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: July 28th, 2014, 2:07 pm
by 2livewu
Can you please explain why his "ceiling is higher"?

That doesn't make sense to me. How does his ceiling rate as compared to other UNI players?

How about to Mr Cunningham at Bradley? Mr. Morris at WSU?

Just curious.

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: July 28th, 2014, 2:18 pm
by Cdizzle
uniftw wrote:Well...one was a POY and the other is one of 2 players in conference history with 1,000 pts, 600 rbs, 100 3-pointers, 100 assists, 100 blocks and 100 steals.

Why stop there when he could be the ONLY player in conference history with 1,000 pts, 600 rbs, 100 3-pointers, 300 flops, 100 assists, 100 blocks and 100 steals?!

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: July 28th, 2014, 3:03 pm
by Wufan
2livewu wrote:
How about to Mr Cunningham at Bradley? Mr. Morris at WSU?

Just curious.


I'm excited for Shaq Morris! I'm not sure what to expect, but guys with his size don't generally come with that type of explosiveness.

Cunningham should immediately possess elite athleticism. I'm expecting he will be first team All-MVC before he's done.

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: July 28th, 2014, 3:31 pm
by uniftw
2livewu wrote:Can you please explain why his "ceiling is higher"?

That doesn't make sense to me. How does his ceiling rate as compared to other UNI players?

How about to Mr Cunningham at Bradley? Mr. Morris at WSU?

Just curious.

His skill set compared to the other two, combined with size. He is, from what I've heard, more athletic than the other two but more similar to Adam.


I don't know enough about the other players to compare them. I know enough about UNI players, and i know that I've been told from people who have been at practices the ceiling for him is higher thab his brothers if/when it all finally clicks together for him

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: August 10th, 2014, 6:50 pm
by underdawg
6'6" 235 pound PF Jordan Caroline--last year a starter for the number one, undefeated Prep school in the Nation---Montverde Academy.

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: August 11th, 2014, 9:03 am
by agrinut
underdawg wrote:6'6" 235 pound PF Jordan Caroline--last year a starter for the number one, undefeated Prep school in the Nation---Montverde Academy.

After watching him play in springfield last year, I think most are going to be really underwhelmed by him. Still a good pickup do BH, but what he was billed as.

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: August 11th, 2014, 11:13 am
by Wufan
underdawg wrote:6'6" 235 pound PF Jordan Caroline--last year a starter for the number one, undefeated Prep school in the Nation---Montverde Academy.


I know stats don't tell the whole story, but what were they?

Re: NOY 2014-2015

PostPosted: August 11th, 2014, 11:49 am
by uniftw
Wufan wrote:
underdawg wrote:6'6" 235 pound PF Jordan Caroline--last year a starter for the number one, undefeated Prep school in the Nation---Montverde Academy.


I know stats don't tell the whole story, but what were they?

JR year

Caroline averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds per game for the Eagles
http://thesouthern.com/news/local/saluk ... 963f4.html