What's the next realignment domino to fall?

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Good point about non scholarship football.

[mvfcfan]

Maybe I'm missing something, but Villanova has a football team that is FCS and they are good in both basketball and football.

Also non-scholarship football is not really non-scholarship. A lot of those guys are getting some kind of scholarship to play at Drake. They're just getting an academic scholarship of some kind rather than a full-ride athletic scholarship. Even with Drake's football team being non-scholarship, they still managed to finish last this past season in basketball. There are lots of teams without football that also awful in basketball.

Simply, just because you have football or don't have football, doesn't guarantee you will be good in basketball. I'd rather have both football and basketball though and at least be decent in one of them. I at least respect the fact that Valpo and Drake put football teams on the field even if it is Pioneer League (non-scholarship). If it came down to it, I'd rather my school (INST) be Pioneer League than not have football at all.

I guess the best thing about non-scholarship football is that you don't have to give out 63 additional scholarships for women's sports (that no one really cares about lbvs). I guess that would make it to where you only have to have the minimum amount of sports to stay D1, which is probably great for the athletic budget. I was looking at the sports we have at Indiana State and it looks like we use women's golf, women's soccer, and women's volleyball to even out the football scholarships. I'd definitely prefer that we stay scholarship in football though.

[Drakey]

Of course you can have a terrible basketball team in spite of not having football or having non-scholarship football. Drake is a prime example of how not to run a basketball program with moronic coaching hires. The point is that most of the non FBS schools with a lot of basketball success are schools without football scholarships and expenses. Ye villanova has a good basketball program, and apparently they have a football team, but that would be more of an exception than the rule.

[VUGrad1314]

Belmont's coach on realignment:

https://soundcloud.com/user-232619420/b ... conference

Summary:

Belmont likes its lot in the OVC and is unwilling to commit financially to what the MVC would demand

Calls MVC "a good league," but believes that it's a one-bid league going forward, as evidenced by the snub of Illinois State

I wish people understood that if programs like Belmont joined the MVC, it wouldn't be a one-bid league, especially with a second quality add, like Murray State or SLU, and internal improvement from current MVC members. It sucks that a quality add like Murray State that wants to be in and compete in this league is likely to be left out in the cold because Belmont is cheap and cowardly and SLU is arrogant.

[Mikovio]

Villanova is operating in another galaxy. Their athletic dept revenue last year was $40 million and they spend $9.5 million on mens basketball, $6 million on football. The $6 million they spend on FCS football is a rounding error for them. They play it as a lark.

But contrast that with ISUr. FCS football is a huge part of their budget.

ISU football expenses -- $4,062,137

ISU men's basketball expenses -- $2,452,961

ISU total ticket revenue for ALL sports -- $1,798,759

Let's say $1 million of that ticket revenue was for football, maybe $500k for media rights. That's still a $2.5 million budget deficit, which if spent on men's basketball would double their budget. They could pay Gregg Marshall money! But they're not, because they're bent on getting to Paris Texas! Yippee!

Actually they're lucky they didn't have to host a playoff game this year, because that's just more red ink (see above).

[Mikovio]

Belmont's coach on realignment:

https://soundcloud.com/user-232619420/b ... conference

Summary:

Belmont likes its lot in the OVC and is unwilling to commit financially to what the MVC would demand

Calls MVC "a good league," but believes that it's a one-bid league going forward, as evidenced by the snub of Illinois State

I wish people understood that if programs like Belmont joined the MVC, it wouldn't be a one-bid league, especially with a second quality add, like Murray State or SLU, and internal improvement from current MVC members. It sucks that a quality add like Murray State that wants to be in and compete in this league is likely to be left out in the cold because Belmont is cheap and cowardly and SLU is arrogant.

To be fair, of course they're going to say that until a bid is accepted. He's not going to be all "I sure wish we had the money to get out of this hellhole (OVC)!!!!!!!!!!!"

[VUGrad1314]

Belmont's coach on realignment:

https://soundcloud.com/user-232619420/b ... conference

Summary:

Belmont likes its lot in the OVC and is unwilling to commit financially to what the MVC would demand

Calls MVC "a good league," but believes that it's a one-bid league going forward, as evidenced by the snub of Illinois State

I wish people understood that if programs like Belmont joined the MVC, it wouldn't be a one-bid league, especially with a second quality add, like Murray State or SLU, and internal improvement from current MVC members. It sucks that a quality add like Murray State that wants to be in and compete in this league is likely to be left out in the cold because Belmont is cheap and cowardly and SLU is arrogant.

To be fair, of course they're going to say that until a bid is accepted. He's not going to be all "I sure wish we had the money to get out of this hellhole (OVC)!!!!!!!!!!!"

Do you think, as I do, the notion of divisional play in the MVC would be a game-changing selling point for them, since it would substantially reduce their travel burden or is it useless to keep trying to convince them?

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

They said they were open to it so it's not and stretched idea I just don't think it really matter unless they step out of their footprint and add the Dakota's, in which case uni and Drake really get the s*** end of the stick along with the Dakota's so I don't think it's viable. They're not going to screw over just and schools. Uni to Fargo is 7.5 hours by land.

[PurpleAcesFootball]

All this talk of travel partners. Elgin and the university presidents have mentioned it as an issue so it obviously is important to them.

If I am not mistaken - women's basketball is really the only sport which utilizes the partner scheduling. Is there another sport that uses it?

There probably would be significant savings if they adopted it for Men's BB as well. Before you memtion that is mid-major thinking - remember the PAC uses it for men's and women's basketball.

[uniftw]

All this talk of travel partners. Elgin and the university presidents have mentioned it as an issue so it obviously is important to them.

If I am not mistaken - women's basketball is really the only sport which utilizes the partner scheduling. Is there another sport that uses it?

There probably would be significant savings if they adopted it for Men's BB as well. Before you memtion that is mid-major thinking - remember the PAC uses it for men's and women's basketball.

Volleyball