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Consider Drake and SIU's perspective. Getting rid of WSU allows the Valley to bring in UMKC or Grinnel College. In an instant, neither one is a lock for last place anymore. 8th or 9th place sounds much better than 10th. That whole double-digit thing is embarrassing.

Write that check McBulldog!! Operators are standing by to take your credit card number if you wish to beat other Valley school fans to the punch.

McBulldog wrote:To Royal and some of the other Dingle Berry Head fans, this is not personal or anything, you are great people and all but ... LEAVE! Don't let door hit ya where the good Lord ...

This isn't even a Valley message board anymore. It is smoke and mirrors and really is a Dingle Berry Head board. Owned and operated by Dingle Berry Heads and probably moderated, at least somewhat, out of nice, upscale trailer court.

Good luck to the Shockers! Bye Bye!!!

Are you freaking kidding me? WSU brings a ton of $$ and prestige to the Valley. To all of our teams. Losing them would be a disaster. I hate losing to them all the time. And I'm envious of their basketball success but them leaving the conference is a huge loss.

glm38 wrote:

McBulldog wrote:To Royal and some of the other Dingle Berry Head fans, this is not personal or anything, you are great people and all but ... LEAVE! Don't let door hit ya where the good Lord ...

This isn't even a Valley message board anymore. It is smoke and mirrors and really is a Dingle Berry Head board. Owned and operated by Dingle Berry Heads and probably moderated, at least somewhat, out of nice, upscale trailer court.

Good luck to the Shockers! Bye Bye!!!

Are you freaking kidding me? WSU brings a ton of $$ and prestige to the Valley. To all of our teams. Losing them would be a disaster. I hate losing to them all the time. And I'm envious of their basketball success but them leaving the conference is a huge loss.

McBulldog is off his meds again.

Don't know how many remember him from the old ValleyTalk days, but this post was actually pretty tame. He definitely got the response he was looking for.

underdawg wrote:Seriously GO

I think WSU is seeing if Elgin will just give WSU all of it NCAA money instead of splitting it up among those who never have a shot.

Snaggletooth wrote:

underdawg wrote:Seriously GO

I think WSU is seeing if Elgin will just give WSU all of it NCAA money instead of splitting it up among those who never have a shot.

Wasn't that long ago WSU was one of the teams who didn't look to have a shot all that often either....

But they were always the sleeping giant. Can you say that about everyone else?

uniftw wrote:

Snaggletooth wrote:

underdawg wrote:Seriously GO

I think WSU is seeing if Elgin will just give WSU all of it NCAA money instead of splitting it up among those who never have a shot.

Wasn't that long ago WSU was one of the teams who didn't look to have a shot all that often either....

Not that long ago, as in what, 12 years ago? That's sort of long ago.

uniftw wrote:Wasn't that long ago WSU was one of the teams who didn't look to have a shot all that often either....

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing WSU has made more money for this conference in the last 5 years than what the entire conference has done combined in the last 20.

underdawg wrote:Seriously GO

Are you going to replace us with SIU Edwardsville?

Championz wrote:

uniftw wrote:Wasn't that long ago WSU was one of the teams who didn't look to have a shot all that often either....

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing WSU has made more money for this conference in the last 5 years than what the entire conference has done combined in the last 20.

Nobody is questioning the impact of of WSU's final four run and other recent success and the financial benefits that have come with that, but this sort of statement is just obviously false. Looking at tournament shares as an example, WSU has provided by my count 11 in the last 5 years. Certainly impressive. But with only one Arch Madness Tournament championship in the last 20 years, that means the other schools start out at 19 shares over that time without adding up all of the additional shares for wins in the tournament, multiple bids, etc.