Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

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Who will finish in 5th place during the 2014-15 MVC men's basketball season?

Poll ended at October 6th, 2014, 5:59 am

Evansville
25
36%
Illinois State
32
46%
Missouri State
9
13%
Northern Iowa
2
3%
Wichita State
2
3%
 
Total votes : 70

Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby Rollbird5 » September 30th, 2014, 1:26 pm

So what happens if there is a tie? lol
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Postby hot nuts » September 30th, 2014, 2:10 pm

Rollbird5 wrote:So what happens if there is a tie? lol


Strength of Schedule tie breaker, of course!
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby Cdizzle » September 30th, 2014, 2:29 pm

hot nuts wrote:
Rollbird5 wrote:So what happens if there is a tie? lol


Strength of Schedule tie breaker, of course!

Talk about a slap fight.
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby sixth ace » September 30th, 2014, 9:44 pm

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ACECARD wrote:The Aces may be the toughest team in the Valley to predict. They will have two of the best players in the Valley, but then a lot of question marks. What happens if Mock fouls out, or gets hurt, or DJ breaks a foot. The Aces season will depend how good Wiley, Stafford, and Mislav adapt to MVC play, and how much the sophs., Brown, Gibson, and Simmons have improved over the off season. There are just too many questions to pick the Aces much better than fifth at this point. Now, if everybody stays healthy, and the newcomers are good as we HOPE they are, it's possible the Aces could challenge for fourth, or maybe, even third, but that, of course, remains to be seen.

I would have to agree that if Marty loses more games than he wins this year, it would be hard to believe that he would be asked to coach another. And one more thing. His son was the best freshman we had last year, and showed the most progress during the season. Marty wasn't the most imposing player on the court when he played, but did the little things that made him a great player. Blake is the same kind of player, and will play an important roll on this years team.


If Wiley and Stafford can step in and start and two starters from last year can come off the bench, UE really does have the look of a contender. The questions all revolve around coaching.


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Center 5 Egidijus Mockevicius J, Jaylon Moore Sr,David Howard RS S, Willie Wiley JUCO AA1

Forward 4 Jaylon Moore,David Howard,Willie Wiley,Blake Simmons S (cs),Adam Wing J

Forward 3 Blake Simmons,Adam Wing, Mislav Brzoja Tr S Nova, Christian Benzon S

Guard 2 D.J. Balentine J, Mislav Brzoja, Christian Benzon ,Taylor Stafford JUCO AA3

Guard 1 Duane Gibson S,Taylor Stafford,Jaylon Brown S

No order...
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby Wufan » October 3rd, 2014, 6:11 am

Tight race going into the weekend.
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby bigdawg » October 3rd, 2014, 7:23 am

Since it's obvious that UE and ISUred are the next two schools, I propose that we skip the vote for 4th and just start voting for 3rd place next week.
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby ACECARD » October 3rd, 2014, 10:45 am

PantherSigEp wrote:
Rollbird5 wrote:Iv also been picking Evansville lately I think they'll finish 7th. Like ballentine like mock but don't like Marty, role players, or how they run their offense thru just one guy mainly.


This is exactly my feelings except I even like some of their role players. They have talent. What they don't have is a good coach and a system of play that actually equate to success. Screens and jump shots can only get you so far. If you don't believe me then please point out a time that Marty's system has led to any true success in the Valley. He's been mediocre to the conference doormat for years. You can't really believe he's going to make any kind of turnaround without making big adjustments to his system. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'd be looking at an Indiana St, Southern, MSU or Illinois St to piece everything together and finish in the top half before I gamble on Screen-and-Chuck University. I just don't think it's a recipe for meaningful and consistent success at the Division I level

I guess you never heard of Bobby Knight. If you've got the players who can shoot 50%, and guys that can rebound, and play defense you can win at any level no matter what offense they run.The Aces problems aren't from the offense they run, their problems are they don't have enough talented players.
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby Born2Shock » October 3rd, 2014, 12:08 pm

ACECARD wrote:
PantherSigEp wrote:
Rollbird5 wrote:Iv also been picking Evansville lately I think they'll finish 7th. Like ballentine like mock but don't like Marty, role players, or how they run their offense thru just one guy mainly.


This is exactly my feelings except I even like some of their role players. They have talent. What they don't have is a good coach and a system of play that actually equate to success. Screens and jump shots can only get you so far. If you don't believe me then please point out a time that Marty's system has led to any true success in the Valley. He's been mediocre to the conference doormat for years. You can't really believe he's going to make any kind of turnaround without making big adjustments to his system. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'd be looking at an Indiana St, Southern, MSU or Illinois St to piece everything together and finish in the top half before I gamble on Screen-and-Chuck University. I just don't think it's a recipe for meaningful and consistent success at the Division I level

I guess you never heard of Bobby Knight. If you've got the players who can shoot 50%, and guys that can rebound, and play defense you can win at any level no matter what offense they run.The Aces problems aren't from the offense they run, their problems are they don't have enough talented players.


1. 1976 is LONG gone.
2. So...if Marty doesnt have enough talented players, and hasnt been able to get them in 8 years, why continue to run the same offense?
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby PantherSigEp » October 3rd, 2014, 11:57 pm

bigdawg wrote:Since it's obvious that UE and ISUred are the next two schools, I propose that we skip the vote for 4th and just start voting for 3rd place next week.


Disagree. I'm confident the RedBirds will only finish in odd numbered positions. 8-)
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Re: Official 2014-15 MVCfans.com Prediction - 5th Place

Postby glm38 » October 4th, 2014, 12:22 am

Part of my problem with Marty is his utilization of Mock. That guy is so talented. He shot 62% from the field. 62%! Yet he wasnt a focal point of the offense? Thats crazy. Blake Simmons got more shots than Mock did. I know a little of that can be attributed to foul trouble but most of the blame for that inequity is on the coach and the system.
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