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PantherSigEp wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Iv also been picking Evansville lately I think they'll finish 7th. Like ballentine like mock but don't like Marty, role players, or how they run their offense thru just one guy mainly.

This is exactly my feelings except I even like some of their role players. They have talent. What they don't have is a good coach and a system of play that actually equate to success. Screens and jump shots can only get you so far. If you don't believe me then please point out a time that Marty's system has led to any true success in the Valley. He's been mediocre to the conference doormat for years. You can't really believe he's going to make any kind of turnaround without making big adjustments to his system. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'd be looking at an Indiana St, Southern, MSU or Illinois St to piece everything together and finish in the top half before I gamble on Screen-and-Chuck University. I just don't think it's a recipe for meaningful and consistent success at the Division I level

ACECARD wrote:

PantherSigEp wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Iv also been picking Evansville lately I think they'll finish 7th. Like ballentine like mock but don't like Marty, role players, or how they run their offense thru just one guy mainly.

This is exactly my feelings except I even like some of their role players. They have talent. What they don't have is a good coach and a system of play that actually equate to success. Screens and jump shots can only get you so far. If you don't believe me then please point out a time that Marty's system has led to any true success in the Valley. He's been mediocre to the conference doormat for years. You can't really believe he's going to make any kind of turnaround without making big adjustments to his system. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'd be looking at an Indiana St, Southern, MSU or Illinois St to piece everything together and finish in the top half before I gamble on Screen-and-Chuck University. I just don't think it's a recipe for meaningful and consistent success at the Division I level

I guess you never heard of Bobby Knight. If you've got the players who can shoot 50%, and guys that can rebound, and play defense you can win at any level no matter what offense they run.The Aces problems aren't from the offense they run, their problems are they don't have enough talented players.

bigdawg wrote:Since it's obvious that UE and ISUred are the next two schools, I propose that we skip the vote for 4th and just start voting for 3rd place next week.

glm38 wrote:Part of my problem with Marty is his utilization of Mock. That guy is so talented. He shot 62% from the field. 62%! Yet he wasnt a focal point of the offense? Thats crazy. Blake Simmons got more shots than Mock did. I know a little of that can be attributed to foul trouble but most of the blame for that inequity is on the coach and the system.

PantherSigEp wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Iv also been picking Evansville lately I think they'll finish 7th. Like ballentine like mock but don't like Marty, role players, or how they run their offense thru just one guy mainly.

This is exactly my feelings except I even like some of their role players. They have talent. What they don't have is a good coach and a system of play that actually equate to success. Screens and jump shots can only get you so far. If you don't believe me then please point out a time that Marty's system has led to any true success in the Valley. He's been mediocre to the conference doormat for years. You can't really believe he's going to make any kind of turnaround without making big adjustments to his system. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'd be looking at an Indiana St, Southern, MSU or Illinois St to piece everything together and finish in the top half before I gamble on Screen-and-Chuck University. I just don't think it's a recipe for meaningful and consistent success at the Division I level

bigdawg wrote:Since it's obvious that UE and ISUred are the next two schools, I propose that we skip the vote for 4th and just start voting for 3rd place next week.