TAS Bracketology 2014-15

[TheAsianSensation]

K-State is either being undervalued because the Big 12 is just so dominant that anyone that is capable of occasionally holding home court deserves to an at-large; or the Big 12 is over-valued because 8 teams were artificially placed in the top 25 and they keep exchanging losses and perpetuating the myth.

The problem is that the computer numbers support that the Big 12 is that dominant

[Wufan]

K-State is either being undervalued because the Big 12 is just so dominant that anyone that is capable of occasionally holding home court deserves to an at-large; or the Big 12 is over-valued because 8 teams were artificially placed in the top 25 and they keep exchanging losses and perpetuating the myth.

The problem is that the computer numbers support that the Big 12 is that dominant

Hey, I offered up two possible solutions. Both are potentially correct, but only one is actually correct. We will see how many lower seeds the Big 12 knocks off this year in the tourney.

[rlh04d]

K-State is either being undervalued because the Big 12 is just so dominant that anyone that is capable of occasionally holding home court deserves to an at-large; or the Big 12 is over-valued because 8 teams were artificially placed in the top 25 and they keep exchanging losses and perpetuating the myth.

The problem is that the computer numbers support that the Big 12 is that dominant

How have the computer numbers looked for them in past years?

Seems like they consistently get a ton of bids and fail to have any success in the tourney over the last few years (minus Kansas obviously).

[TheAsianSensation]

K-State is either being undervalued because the Big 12 is just so dominant that anyone that is capable of occasionally holding home court deserves to an at-large; or the Big 12 is over-valued because 8 teams were artificially placed in the top 25 and they keep exchanging losses and perpetuating the myth.

The problem is that the computer numbers support that the Big 12 is that dominant

How have the computer numbers looked for them in past years?

Seems like they consistently get a ton of bids and fail to have any success in the tourney over the last few years (minus Kansas obviously).

Obviously a simplistic measurement tool, but raw RPI numbers:

This year: .5905
13-14: .5812
12-13: .5581
11-12: .5650
10-11: .5726

Actually this year is really high by historical standards. Having your bums like TCU run the table really boosted their numbers.

[rlh04d]

Obviously a simplistic measurement tool, but raw RPI numbers:

This year: .5905
13-14: .5812
12-13: .5581
11-12: .5650
10-11: .5726

Actually this year is really high by historical standards. Having your bums like TCU run the table really boosted their numbers.

Aww. When you said computer numbers, I thought you meant something other than RPI. RPI's too easy to game for me to pay any attention to that as a computer statistic of quality.

This is significantly the best year for the B12 recently by KenPom as well, though -- the ten teams average 42.3 (vs. 58.4, 86.7, and 67.2 in the past few years), and the top eight teams (I don't really care about the non-tourney teams) average 22.375 (vs. 33.375, 46.25, 37.75).

[TheAsianSensation]

Sorry, I'm using RPI alone because I'm in Committee Mode for the next 15 days

[Redbird Recon]

TAS,

How's the other side of the bracket looking for the Redbirds?

Upsetting either of the big 2 should get us in, right?

We'd be 19-12 if we beat Evansville and lose to Wichita.
We'd be 20-12 if we get to Sunday and lose.
RPI currently sits at 77 but only 1-7 vs. top 100.

[Aargh]

Birds would have to have 21 wins going into Selection Sunday to have anything resembling a chance to get into the NCAA's. Beating WSU or UNI would probably get the 'Birds a look by the NIT, but 'Birds fans should count on getting a W against WSU or UNI in order to make the NIT.

The NCAA's generally get most of the teams down to about 41 rpi. There's 36 spots between 41 and the 'Birds current 77. Rpi is nothing but an indicator, but the indicator says there are 36 teams ahead of the 'Birds for 32 spots. Throw in the low-major conference champs who didn't get an auto bid in their conference tourney, and there are probably significantly less than 30 available bids for the NIT.

[Redbird Recon]

Birds would have to have 21 wins going into Selection Sunday to have anything resembling a chance to get into the NCAA's. Beating WSU or UNI would probably get the 'Birds a look by the NIT, but 'Birds fans should count on getting a W against WSU or UNI in order to make the NIT.

The NCAA's generally get most of the teams down to about 41 rpi. There's 36 spots between 41 and the 'Birds current 77. Rpi is nothing but an indicator, but the indicator says there are 36 teams ahead of the 'Birds for 32 spots. Throw in the low-major conference champs who didn't get an auto bid in their conference tourney, and there are probably significantly less than 30 available bids for the NIT.

"Other side of the bracket" was referring to ISUr's chances of the NIT.
I'm completely aware that we're nowhere near the bubble.

[TheAsianSensation]

TAS,

How's the other side of the bracket looking for the Redbirds?

Upsetting either of the big 2 should get us in, right?

We'd be 19-12 if we beat Evansville and lose to Wichita.
We'd be 20-12 if we get to Sunday and lose.
RPI currently sits at 77 but only 1-7 vs. top 100.

I think you need to beat one of the Big 2 just to get a seat at the table with about 10 other teams jockeying for the final 3 or 4 NIT bids.

I'm going to rebuild my NIT projections tomorrow, so I'll have to take a closer look.

In an unrelated note, I decided to put Iowa St directly below UNI and Wichita in my S-Curve just to spite them. You're welcome