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Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 2:21 pm
by TheAsianSensation
Dave Reynolds now confirming 4 more names: Sutherland, Wells, Amerson, Morgan.

With Cunningham and Thomas, we're up to 6 today.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 2:44 pm
by rlh04d
Cdizzle wrote:There may be nothing wrong with the guys he recruited. I just don't like coaches recruiting while on salary at one school, using their resources, and then taking the recruits with them when they change jobs.

:+1:

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:00 pm
by Mikovio
Ultimately it's up to the players, as it should be. The situation they committed to has changed in a significant way and they should have the opportunity to reevaluate. They're not chattel.

Wardle had one of his Horizon players get drafted last year, and another one might get drafted this year and just won honorable mention AA honors. Not to mention Butler made a couple Final Fours with Horizon players. If Wardle believes any player he recruited at GB could help us I'm all for it. God knows some Horizon players could have helped the 14-15 Braves.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:05 pm
by Cdizzle
Mikovio wrote:Ultimately it's up to the players, as it should be. The situation they committed to has changed in a significant way and they should have the opportunity to reevaluate. They're not chattel.

I absolutely agree that players should have the opportunity to reevaluate. I believe the school should let them out of their commitment. I do not think the departing coach should poach them.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:06 pm
by tribecalledquest
Cdizzle wrote:le on salary at one school, using their resources, and then taking the recruits with them when they change jobs.


I don't think it would happen that way if it does. I think all of the GB recruits will remain committed to GB if Brian Barone gets the job. If not then the entire staff that recruited you is gone. I would be shocked if guys DIDN'T get out of their LOI's if that were the case, regardless of the school.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:06 pm
by tribecalledquest
Cdizzle wrote:
Mikovio wrote:Ultimately it's up to the players, as it should be. The situation they committed to has changed in a significant way and they should have the opportunity to reevaluate. They're not chattel.

I absolutely agree that players should have the opportunity to reevaluate. I believe the school should let them out of their commitment. I do not think the departing coach should poach them.


Agreed. But I think they can get out of their LOI and go to the new school where that coach is and it not be poaching.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:15 pm
by rlh04d
tribecalledquest wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:
Mikovio wrote:Ultimately it's up to the players, as it should be. The situation they committed to has changed in a significant way and they should have the opportunity to reevaluate. They're not chattel.

I absolutely agree that players should have the opportunity to reevaluate. I believe the school should let them out of their commitment. I do not think the departing coach should poach them.


Agreed. But I think they can get out of their LOI and go to the new school where that coach is and it not be poaching.

The players should be allowed to look elsewhere if they desire. The coach should encourage them to stay. If the players specifically request to follow the coach, they should be allowed to. The coach should not work to bring them with him.

A coach that goes out of his way to bring his recruits with him, IMO, lacks character.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:19 pm
by Cdizzle
tribecalledquest wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:
Mikovio wrote:Ultimately it's up to the players, as it should be. The situation they committed to has changed in a significant way and they should have the opportunity to reevaluate. They're not chattel.

I absolutely agree that players should have the opportunity to reevaluate. I believe the school should let them out of their commitment. I do not think the departing coach should poach them.


Agreed. But I think they can get out of their LOI and go to the new school where that coach is and it not be poaching.

You said 'Agreed' and then completely disagreed with everything I said, ha!

This is one of those points that I feel pretty strongly about, but I also completely understand how/why other people feel differently and it doesn't bother me much.

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:21 pm
by tribecalledquest
Cdizzle..

So if they decide they don't want to play at UWGB under a completely new coaching staff you feel they should not go to Bradley under any circumstances?

Re: MVC players moving on

PostPosted: April 1st, 2015, 3:27 pm
by Cdizzle
tribecalledquest wrote:Cdizzle..

So if they decide they don't want to play at UWGB under a completely new coaching staff you feel they should not go to Bradley under any circumstances?

I feel like you shouldn't be able to follow the coach without sitting out a year. The coach recruited you while an employee of the first institution, and used their money to visit you, fly you in, etc. The NCAA used to allow institutions to let commits out of their LOIs with restrictions. I'm not sure they still do that.

So, my opinion, is that if one of those players wanted to go to Bradley that would be fine, but he should have to transfer and sit out a year.

Does this punish the kids too much? Maybe. But it's not like there wouldn't be other options.