Rollbird5 wrote:rlh04d wrote:Rollbird5 wrote:
How doesn't he keep them accountable? What actions have the guys on the team shown this year that is terrifying?
Daishon Knight punched a woman in the face for no reason and was suspended for an exhibition game. Did not miss one minute of a game that Muller needed to win.
In what way has he kept anyone accountable? What actions have the guys on the team shown that were positive? Having a one year streak of not having anyone arrested?
We're not sure of the reason or the specifics of the situation that occurred, but following that incident“Daishon has done everything he has been asked to do within the program and on campus, and it is nice to have him back fully reinstated
He did everything that was asked of him from the school, authorities, and Dan. He hasn't had any problem since then, not even a little one so it seems like more of one bad mistake where a kid needed a second chance and has obviously grown from it. As for keeping kids accountable, Middlebrooks didn't do what he needed to in the classroom so he didn't play, Lofton was a cancer to the team so he didn't play, Ransom broke team violations suspended. Dan runs a tight ship and if you aren't putting in the effort in practice and being a good teammate u won't play. As for actions that are positive here's a good story that came about from one of the charity events the team did in the summer. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... istic-boy/
The team does many events with local schools, talking to kids and hanging out with them at recess or such to make their days and be role models. Going on a water walk to raise money for people in Africa etc. Have actually talked to guys on the team and they've even said that they have grown a lot as a person under Muller. Not exactly a team of thugs and "questionable characters" that they're made out to be besides those few headcases.
ilstubirds250 wrote:Yup, does that answer your snarky questions?
Come on, rlh. I typically enjoy your posts but stop acting like you know everything that goes on at Illinois State and quit categorizing a bunch of college aged kids as horrible human beings. It's disturbing.
rlh04d wrote:ilstubirds250 wrote:Yup, does that answer your snarky questions?
Come on, rlh. I typically enjoy your posts but stop acting like you know everything that goes on at Illinois State and quit categorizing a bunch of college aged kids as horrible human beings. It's disturbing.
I did no such thing. I never called any player at IlSt a horrible human being. My point was that a valuable player at Illinois State did a terrible thing and was not punished for it by Muller.
Say what you want about him learning his lesson, but Muller did not hold him accountable. And that flies in the face of literally saying the words "Muller holds his players accountable." In that situation he didn't. In his three years as a head coach, that was the single biggest incident he has had to deal with, with the single best player he had to deal with, and he simply did not hold him accountable.
Rollbird5 wrote:As for keeping kids accountable, Middlebrooks didn't do what he needed to in the classroom so he didn't play, Lofton was a cancer to the team so he didn't play, Ransom broke team violations suspended. Dan runs a tight ship and if you aren't putting in the effort in practice and being a good teammate u won't play. As for actions that are positive here's a good story that came about from one of the charity events the team did in the summer. http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/colleg ... ee41c.html
The team does many events with local schools, talking to kids and hanging out with them at recess or such to make their days and be role models. Going on a water walk to raise money for people in Africa etc. Have actually talked to guys on the team and they've even said that they have grown a lot as a person under Muller. Not exactly a team of thugs and "questionable characters" that they're made out to be besides those few headcases.
Bmarq04 wrote:Since the issue with Knight, Muller has been very consistent with his standards.
Even as a Redbird fan, I expected and wanted more punishment for Knight. If, and it's a big if, there were circumstances that were not released that justified the soft punishment, I was never privy to them.
As disappointed as I was with how that was handled, I have been very pleased with how he's handled players since. Looking back I just chalk up the Knight incident as a young coach who made a mistake in how he handled that player. I believe the Muller in place now would have handled it differently.
rlh04d wrote:Secondly, Middlebrooks wasn't exactly a major contributor.
Redbird Recon wrote:rlh04d wrote:Secondly, Middlebrooks wasn't exactly a major contributor.
He was our best rebounder last year. He would have been our best rebounder this year. Athletically, he was a freak. He was averaging 25 mpg 4 games into his D1 college career.
Also, Muller suspended MM before he was officially ruled ineligible. He was suspended by Muller for an entire month before he was officially ineligible with the NCAA.
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