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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby Cdizzle » January 27th, 2016, 10:47 am

mvcfan2 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:Did the Redbirds finally learn how to shoot? They could be pretty tough if they've figured out how to put the ball in the hole with some regularity. Looks like McCloud has come out of his absolutely dreadful slump and is now lighting the world on fire.


The last two games the offense has come alive, albeit, against the lower end of the conference. McCloud's shooting has opened up the floor and taken teams out of a zone, which benefits Purcell, McIntosh, etc. to cause mis-matches 1v1 and force doubles to open up the floor a bit.

With all that said, they still need a larger sample size of success leading into the WSU game....we will see if that happens.

Agree they need to do it for a longer period, but they basically had done it zero times so far this year, so 2 for the last 2 seems somewhat pertinent. Especially McCloud. As you point out, having a sharpshooter that is actually shooting sharp can change defenses and schemes. Will be interesting to see how it goes over the next several games.
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Postby BirdsEyeView » January 27th, 2016, 11:15 am

Cdizzle wrote:
mvcfan2 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:Did the Redbirds finally learn how to shoot? They could be pretty tough if they've figured out how to put the ball in the hole with some regularity. Looks like McCloud has come out of his absolutely dreadful slump and is now lighting the world on fire.


The last two games the offense has come alive, albeit, against the lower end of the conference. McCloud's shooting has opened up the floor and taken teams out of a zone, which benefits Purcell, McIntosh, etc. to cause mis-matches 1v1 and force doubles to open up the floor a bit.

With all that said, they still need a larger sample size of success leading into the WSU game....we will see if that happens.

Agree they need to do it for a longer period, but they basically had done it zero times so far this year, so 2 for the last 2 seems somewhat pertinent. Especially McCloud. As you point out, having a sharpshooter that is actually shooting sharp can change defenses and schemes. Will be interesting to see how it goes over the next several games.


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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 27th, 2016, 12:51 pm

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mathewson10 wrote:Drake did a great job of attacking the lane against ISUr which has been a defensive weakness most of the season. I feel Drake has improved & will steal away a couple MVC games before the season is over as long as they reduce the turnovers. Timmer has played great & at times reminded me a little of Adam Emmenecker (I still have championship nightmares from that guy)


Interesting. Emmenecker and Timmer both good players, but I don't think there are many similarities in their game. Emmenecker much more of a passer, Timmer much more of a scorer.

Bulldog fans growing increasingly frustrated with Giacoletti and his usage of personnel. Every Drake fan I've talked to thinks the major problem is the two Big 10 transfers, but Giacoletti still gives them 30-35 minutes per game. I suppose after he spent all of last season telling us (Drake fans) how great those two were, he won't admit his mistake.

I agree. Emmenecker and Timmer are quite different.

I like Timmer a lot. He has skill plus he ain't afraid of nuttin'.
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby Cdizzle » January 27th, 2016, 12:52 pm

Ricardo del Rio wrote:
DUBulldog wrote:
mathewson10 wrote:Drake did a great job of attacking the lane against ISUr which has been a defensive weakness most of the season. I feel Drake has improved & will steal away a couple MVC games before the season is over as long as they reduce the turnovers. Timmer has played great & at times reminded me a little of Adam Emmenecker (I still have championship nightmares from that guy)


Interesting. Emmenecker and Timmer both good players, but I don't think there are many similarities in their game. Emmenecker much more of a passer, Timmer much more of a scorer.

Bulldog fans growing increasingly frustrated with Giacoletti and his usage of personnel. Every Drake fan I've talked to thinks the major problem is the two Big 10 transfers, but Giacoletti still gives them 30-35 minutes per game. I suppose after he spent all of last season telling us (Drake fans) how great those two were, he won't admit his mistake.

I agree. Emmenecker and Timmer are quite different.

I like Timmer a lot. He has skill plus he ain't afraid of nuttin'.

But has he learned to dribble with his right hand yet?
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby BuBrave2006 » January 27th, 2016, 1:33 pm

Cdizzle wrote:
Ricardo del Rio wrote:
I like Timmer a lot. He has skill plus he ain't afraid of nuttin'.

But has he learned to dribble with his right hand yet?


That skill doesn't become necessary until you become an upperclassman, and sometimes not even then.

See Washpun, Wes
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby Cdizzle » January 27th, 2016, 1:45 pm

BuBrave2006 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:
Ricardo del Rio wrote:
I like Timmer a lot. He has skill plus he ain't afraid of nuttin'.

But has he learned to dribble with his right hand yet?


That skill doesn't become necessary until you become an upperclassman, and sometimes not even then.

See Washpun, Wes

The Panthers 10-11 record might indicate that it is more of a necessity than you let on :)

In fact, it might be worth pointing out that the two Valley teams with a starting guard that can only dribble with one hand are a combined 1-14 against the rest of the league.
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby BuBrave2006 » January 27th, 2016, 1:59 pm

Cdizzle wrote:
BuBrave2006 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:But has he learned to dribble with his right hand yet?


That skill doesn't become necessary until you become an upperclassman, and sometimes not even then.

See Washpun, Wes

The Panthers 10-11 record might indicate that it is more of a necessity than you let on :)

In fact, it might be worth pointing out that the two Valley teams with a starting guard that can only dribble with one hand are a combined 1-14 against the rest of the league.


Because Washpun and Timmer are clearly the main problems with their respective teams. It has nothing to do with the lack of a solid inside presence for either team.
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby Cdizzle » January 27th, 2016, 2:04 pm

BuBrave2006 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:
BuBrave2006 wrote:That skill doesn't become necessary until you become an upperclassman, and sometimes not even then.

See Washpun, Wes

The Panthers 10-11 record might indicate that it is more of a necessity than you let on :)

In fact, it might be worth pointing out that the two Valley teams with a starting guard that can only dribble with one hand are a combined 1-14 against the rest of the league.


Because Washpun and Timmer are clearly the main problems with their respective teams. It has nothing to do with the lack of a solid inside presence for either team.

Hey man, I'm just pointing out what I see. You can decide coincidence, correlation, or causation.
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby BuBrave2006 » January 27th, 2016, 2:12 pm

Cdizzle wrote:
BuBrave2006 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:The Panthers 10-11 record might indicate that it is more of a necessity than you let on :)

In fact, it might be worth pointing out that the two Valley teams with a starting guard that can only dribble with one hand are a combined 1-14 against the rest of the league.


Because Washpun and Timmer are clearly the main problems with their respective teams. It has nothing to do with the lack of a solid inside presence for either team.

Hey man, I'm just pointing out what I see. You can decide coincidence, correlation, or causation.


Fair enough, it's not like you're wrong. Hard to argue against 1-14 with the one win being against Bradley.
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Re: ISU vs Drake

Postby tribecalledquest » January 27th, 2016, 2:38 pm

Are Wasphun and Timmer worse than other guards dribbling with their "off hand" or is it easier to notice because they are lefthanded to begin with?
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