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Rollbird5 wrote:Not saying he would be a top 2 at the 4/5 but Deontae Hawkins is having a real solid conference season (minus the 2 missed free throws today ) for the Birds so he would be a player that could be right up there at power forward spot

I'd fill McIntosh before Hawkins at the stretch 4.

Mock
McIntosh
Brown
Beane
Ballentine

Those 5 would edge WSU...but just the fact that it's an argument shows the Shox dominance in this conference

Stickboy46 wrote:

musiccitybulldog wrote:Ballantine

Beane

Timmer

Mock

Brown

That team MIGHT be able to stay within 15 of WSU

I think you're right. I think WSU sweeps that team.

mvcfan2 wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Not saying he would be a top 2 at the 4/5 but Deontae Hawkins is having a real solid conference season (minus the 2 missed free throws today ) for the Birds so he would be a player that could be right up there at power forward spot

I'd fill McIntosh before Hawkins at the stretch 4.

Mock
McIntosh
Brown
Beane
Ballentine

Those 5 would edge WSU...but just the fact that it's an argument shows the Shox dominance in this conference

That would be a good match-up vs WSU. I wish we could see that.

mvcfan2 wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Not saying he would be a top 2 at the 4/5 but Deontae Hawkins is having a real solid conference season (minus the 2 missed free throws today ) for the Birds so he would be a player that could be right up there at power forward spot

I'd fill McIntosh before Hawkins at the stretch 4.

Mock
McIntosh
Brown
Beane
Ballentine

Those 5 would edge WSU...but just the fact that it's an argument shows the Shox dominance in this conference

At least 1 of those 5 would have to learn how to play defense. Also, too many chuckers for one lineup.

Cdizzle wrote:

mvcfan2 wrote:

Rollbird5 wrote:Not saying he would be a top 2 at the 4/5 but Deontae Hawkins is having a real solid conference season (minus the 2 missed free throws today ) for the Birds so he would be a player that could be right up there at power forward spot

I'd fill McIntosh before Hawkins at the stretch 4.

Mock
McIntosh
Brown
Beane
Ballentine

Those 5 would edge WSU...but just the fact that it's an argument shows the Shox dominance in this conference

At least 1 of those 5 would have to learn how to play defense. Also, too many chuckers for one lineup.

I think Mock is a pretty good individual defender in the post area. And rebounding is part of defense and his rebounding speaks for itself.

I would still pick WSU with their two AA's in this matchup though.

Let's just make this the finals in St. Louis. Who would object?

glm38 wrote:
I think Mock is a pretty good individual defender in the post area. And rebounding is part of defense and his rebounding speaks for itself.

I would still pick WSU with their two AA's in this matchup though.

Teams with Mock keep getting out-rebounded pretty handily by teams with WSU players.

Individual stats are overrated. Winning matters.

Cdizzle wrote:

glm38 wrote:
I think Mock is a pretty good individual defender in the post area. And rebounding is part of defense and his rebounding speaks for itself.

I would still pick WSU with their two AA's in this matchup though.

Teams with Mock keep getting out-rebounded pretty handily by teams with WSU players.

Individual stats are overrated. Winning matters.

Of course winning matters. Where did I say it didn't? All I did was disagree with your statement that none of the listed players play much defense. When in fact Mock plays good individual post defense, blocks a lot of shots, and grabs a lot of defensive boards. No doubt the shox team approach to rebounding is the most effective in the valley. But I wasn't comparing teams? Or saying stats are all that matters? I just commented on a player on an individual basis. A player who is obviously the best post player in the valley.