MVC FOY

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Which freshman not on your team will be FOY

Landry Shamet, WSU
27
55%
Koch Bar, BU
5
10%
Johannes Dolven, DU
3
6%
Silas Adheke, UE
1
2%
Bronson Kessinger, ISUb
2
4%
Cameron Satterwhite, LUC
0
No votes
Greg (Boo) Williams, MSU
0
No votes
Juwan McCloud, UNI
11
22%
 
Total votes : 49

Re: MVC FOY

Postby Redbirdgrad » December 5th, 2016, 11:33 am

Wufan wrote:How are your freshman doing to this point?


Freshman are playing second fiddle over here at ISU... still learning the ropes. Only two notables I'd list are:

Madison Williams - 2.2 PPG, 0.6 RPG, 1.2 APG. This is the head of the class so far. He's made positive impacts in each game he's played in, and 7 points, 2 steals, and 2 assists in 17 minutes vs. New Mexico. He's going to be a very good player for the Birds for the next few years. High energy guy who'll be a good combo for us.

Andre Washington - 0.8 PPG, 0.5 RPG, 0.3 APG. Nothing really to speak of here. Jury is still out. Played 10 minutes against Ferris State with 3 points and 8 minutes against IUPUI with a steal and a block, but other than that hasn't logged any time. Game needs to slow down for a him a little before we can tell.

Very excited for Madison. Still waiting for Andre...
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby BuBrave2006 » December 5th, 2016, 3:37 pm

Redbirdgrad wrote:Madison Williams - 2.2 PPG, 0.6 RPG, 1.2 APG. This is the head of the class so far. He's made positive impacts in each game he's played in, and 7 points, 2 steals, and 2 assists in 17 minutes vs. New Mexico. He's going to be a very good player for the Birds for the next few years. High energy guy who'll be a good combo for us.

Very excited for Madison.


I've been told that his nickname is "Mad Dog."
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby alap3 » December 5th, 2016, 3:51 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
Blers wrote:Matt Chastain looked like a real gem 2 and a half games in before his ACL injury. He was as explosive a player as i've ever seen off the dribble and had a nice 3pt shot. Really hoping he can recover; even if he doesn't retain all his jumping ability he clearly had rock solid fundamentals and can still be a nice player.

In his place Cam Satterwhite has stepped up and has really begun to look comfortable. He's averaging 4 points and 2 boards and just under one steal and one assist in 14 minutes a game. The stats don't really tell it all though; the game doesn't look to big for him and he gets better every game; he was clearly gonna be brought along slower before the Chastain injury occured but since then he's contributed great minutes against Washington State (6pts, 6 boards, 2 steals), and came away with the dagger steal last night against SDS. He's not a FOY contender but by conference he potentially could take a jump and contend for the all freshmen team.

Our other Freshmen from Croatia Bruno Skokna is putting up 4.7 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.2 assists in 17 minutes. I think he's going through some of what McCloud is going through at least offensively. He's only shooting 35% from the field, but based on what I've seen in open practices and even shoot arounds i believe he'll come around and score more by seasons end. He stepped up big time yesterday and got 6 boards in Ingrams absence; and makes one or two plays a game that show you why schools like Gonzaga pursued him. He runs the offense well at backup PG and like Cam is quickly adjusting to D1 defenses (1 TO in the last 3 games after 13 in the first 6 games). If he can get his shot to fall more consistently he's gonna be a weapon

I think Chastain had a shot to sneak into the FOY conversation, with him out though I think LU still has two rock solid players who may not amaze on a nightly basis as of now, but will make the right plays in the now and could be big time pieces as early as next year.


Chastain was never going to be in FOY conversations. Come on now.

Pretty impressive how you can predict the future.
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby Blers » December 5th, 2016, 4:30 pm

alap3 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:
Blers wrote:Matt Chastain looked like a real gem 2 and a half games in before his ACL injury. He was as explosive a player as i've ever seen off the dribble and had a nice 3pt shot. Really hoping he can recover; even if he doesn't retain all his jumping ability he clearly had rock solid fundamentals and can still be a nice player.

In his place Cam Satterwhite has stepped up and has really begun to look comfortable. He's averaging 4 points and 2 boards and just under one steal and one assist in 14 minutes a game. The stats don't really tell it all though; the game doesn't look to big for him and he gets better every game; he was clearly gonna be brought along slower before the Chastain injury occured but since then he's contributed great minutes against Washington State (6pts, 6 boards, 2 steals), and came away with the dagger steal last night against SDS. He's not a FOY contender but by conference he potentially could take a jump and contend for the all freshmen team.

Our other Freshmen from Croatia Bruno Skokna is putting up 4.7 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.2 assists in 17 minutes. I think he's going through some of what McCloud is going through at least offensively. He's only shooting 35% from the field, but based on what I've seen in open practices and even shoot arounds i believe he'll come around and score more by seasons end. He stepped up big time yesterday and got 6 boards in Ingrams absence; and makes one or two plays a game that show you why schools like Gonzaga pursued him. He runs the offense well at backup PG and like Cam is quickly adjusting to D1 defenses (1 TO in the last 3 games after 13 in the first 6 games). If he can get his shot to fall more consistently he's gonna be a weapon

I think Chastain had a shot to sneak into the FOY conversation, with him out though I think LU still has two rock solid players who may not amaze on a nightly basis as of now, but will make the right plays in the now and could be big time pieces as early as next year.


Chastain was never going to be in FOY conversations. Come on now.

Pretty impressive how you can predict the future.



Yikes. I hedged that prediction as much as possible with "had a shot to sneak into the conversation..." as in maybe be in the top 5; and I base that mostly on not having heard much buzz around too many freshmen in conference yet. I don't think he'd win; Darrel Brown/Landry Shamet are probably the leaders to get it now and i have to think McCloud will turn a corner at some point. I was just saying he looked to have the talent to make some noise as the 6th man off the bench. Tough crowd.
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby alap3 » December 5th, 2016, 4:46 pm

Blers wrote:Yikes. I hedged that prediction as much as possible with "had a shot to sneak into the conversation..." as in maybe be in the top 5; and I base that mostly on not having heard much buzz around too many freshmen in conference yet. I don't think he'd win; Darrel Brown/Landry Shamet are probably the leaders to get it now and i have to think McCloud will turn a corner at some point. I was just saying he looked to have the talent to make some noise as the 6th man off the bench. Tough crowd.

Sorry Blers for not being specific. I was talking more towards the post saying he would never have been in FOY contention. I felt there was nothing wrong with you saying "had a shot to sneak into" as it never really implied too much as I also feel he had a real slight chance. Sorry again Blers
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby Blers » December 5th, 2016, 5:18 pm

alap3 wrote:
Blers wrote:Yikes. I hedged that prediction as much as possible with "had a shot to sneak into the conversation..." as in maybe be in the top 5; and I base that mostly on not having heard much buzz around too many freshmen in conference yet. I don't think he'd win; Darrel Brown/Landry Shamet are probably the leaders to get it now and i have to think McCloud will turn a corner at some point. I was just saying he looked to have the talent to make some noise as the 6th man off the bench. Tough crowd.

Sorry Blers for not being specific. I was talking more towards the post saying he would never have been in FOY contention. I felt there was nothing wrong with you saying "had a shot to sneak into" as it never really implied too much as I also feel he had a real slight chance. Sorry again Blers



Oh no! You're 100% good Alap I understood what you meant. I guess I'm the one who wasn't being specific haha I was just following the thread. I appreciate the response tho, and am glad I'm not alone in thinking he had a shot! :Cheers:
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby Wufan » December 5th, 2016, 6:46 pm

Right now, I think WSU has two players and Bradley has two players on the All-Freshman team. The ISUb player is probably fifth, but there's plenty of room for movement.
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby tribecalledquest » December 6th, 2016, 3:46 pm

alap3 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:
Blers wrote:Matt Chastain looked like a real gem 2 and a half games in before his ACL injury. He was as explosive a player as i've ever seen off the dribble and had a nice 3pt shot. Really hoping he can recover; even if he doesn't retain all his jumping ability he clearly had rock solid fundamentals and can still be a nice player.

In his place Cam Satterwhite has stepped up and has really begun to look comfortable. He's averaging 4 points and 2 boards and just under one steal and one assist in 14 minutes a game. The stats don't really tell it all though; the game doesn't look to big for him and he gets better every game; he was clearly gonna be brought along slower before the Chastain injury occured but since then he's contributed great minutes against Washington State (6pts, 6 boards, 2 steals), and came away with the dagger steal last night against SDS. He's not a FOY contender but by conference he potentially could take a jump and contend for the all freshmen team.

Our other Freshmen from Croatia Bruno Skokna is putting up 4.7 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.2 assists in 17 minutes. I think he's going through some of what McCloud is going through at least offensively. He's only shooting 35% from the field, but based on what I've seen in open practices and even shoot arounds i believe he'll come around and score more by seasons end. He stepped up big time yesterday and got 6 boards in Ingrams absence; and makes one or two plays a game that show you why schools like Gonzaga pursued him. He runs the offense well at backup PG and like Cam is quickly adjusting to D1 defenses (1 TO in the last 3 games after 13 in the first 6 games). If he can get his shot to fall more consistently he's gonna be a weapon

I think Chastain had a shot to sneak into the FOY conversation, with him out though I think LU still has two rock solid players who may not amaze on a nightly basis as of now, but will make the right plays in the now and could be big time pieces as early as next year.


Chastain was never going to be in FOY conversations. Come on now.

Pretty impressive how you can predict the future.


Did he "have a shot"? Well, yes, because he was a freshman on the active roster. But he wasnt going to produce at FOY levels. That's my point.
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby Bradleyfan1 » December 12th, 2016, 8:11 am

DBJ against Chi St ,14 pts on 4 of 7 shooting 2 for 2 from the line , 5 asst , a steal ,only one turnover and 2 boards. :dance:
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Re: MVC FOY

Postby Khan4Cats » December 12th, 2016, 9:45 am

Wufan wrote:Right now, I think WSU has two players and Bradley has two players on the All-Freshman team. The ISUb player is probably fifth, but there's plenty of room for movement.


Spencer Haldeman for UNI is currently averaging 10 points a game on 41% three point shooting.
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