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The Valley ranked 11th, 9th, 13th, and now 12th this year since Creighton has left. And you're thinking the Valley stays at 12th? Not happening.

TheObserver wrote:The Valley ranked 11th, 9th, 13th, and now 12th this year since Creighton has left. And you're thinking the Valley stays at 12th? Not happening.

Just FYI...Last four years Creighton was in:

9, 8, 15, 8

Wufan wrote:

TheObserver wrote:The Valley ranked 11th, 9th, 13th, and now 12th this year since Creighton has left. And you're thinking the Valley stays at 12th? Not happening.

Just FYI...Last four years Creighton was in:

9, 8, 15, 8

Thanks. So they've gone from about an 8 when Creighton was in, to a 12 with WSU still there. I would think 16th would be a good guess to where they would end up if WSU left (assuming they don't replace them with Gonzaga.)

LOL... no. Just... no. WOW

The Valley being rated #8 BPI does not fit with all the MVC bashing by some posters. So, of course, the BPI rating needs to be called garbage by some posters.

Whether many people believe it or not, the Valley is still a pretty darn good conference. Hopefully the fan bases of all the various schools don't buy into the constant bashing by some posters. Contrary to popular belief, there is still plenty of good hoops being played across the Valley. The MVC is chock full of teams that really get after it each and every game, therefore it's always a struggle to navigate and highly competitive.

The BPI is dead-on right in that it shows the Valley has plenty of game.

ROCK IT MVC!!

shockalot wrote:Well this is just analytic propaganda! Just ask someone who really knows, like saucy. They will tell you the truth that the MVC is not a top 10 conference, the Big Priest is not a top 5 conference, the Big12-2 is way overrated, and the American is just having an off year and is approximately between 10 and 100 times better than the MVC. You just can't buy into things like analytics and science to guide your thinking, you have to rely on your gut, or better yet the gut of someone special.

Lol.

If some of you Shocker Fans are such Valley haters, why the f do you get on a Valley message board and post so condescendingly?

Go be kings...in your own minds....on Shockernet with Fever and his Super Bowl ass.

No way we drop to 16...Jesus, what a joke.

Has the Valey ever put more teams in the NCAA tourney than the AAC?

Redbirdgrad wrote:LOL... no. Just... no. WOW

Sound reasoning but could you elaborate a little bit more?

TheObserver wrote:

Redbirdgrad wrote:LOL... no. Just... no. WOW

Sound reasoning but could you elaborate a little bit more?

You're the one making the significant claim to change from the status quo.

Show your work.

The one making the claim is the one that needs to elaborate.