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Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 11:00 am
by Drakey
sivert wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:...
Terry also didn't go to class the entire second semester.
...


Seems to me this has to be reported to NCAA. Not that the NCAA really cares about the Student-Athletes, but if they did, they should know this is what the $$ is doing.


Then did he flunk out? Can that even happen anymore? you never hear of an academically ineligible player. most teams used to have one or two every year.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 11:06 am
by BCPanther
Drakey wrote:
sivert wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:...
Terry also didn't go to class the entire second semester.
...


Seems to me this has to be reported to NCAA. Not that the NCAA really cares about the Student-Athletes, but if they did, they should know this is what the $$ is doing.


Then did he flunk out? Can that even happen anymore? you never hear of an academically ineligible player. most teams used to have one or two every year.


Universities, especially privates, can't afford to fail anyone. They have to have that revenue stream.

In the case of athletes, all they have to do is get a diagnosis of any kind (mental illness, anxiety, learning disability) and that more or less exempts them from any academic standard. It's bullshit and trivializes the conditions that 'everyday people' are suffering through but, you know, $$$$$$$$$.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 12:49 pm
by sivert
BCPanther wrote:
Drakey wrote:...

Universities, especially privates, can't afford to fail anyone. They have to have that revenue stream.

In the case of athletes, all they have to do is get a diagnosis of any kind (mental illness, anxiety, learning disability) and that more or less exempts them from any academic standard. It's bullshit and trivializes the conditions that 'everyday people' are suffering through but, you know, $$$$$$$$$.

Wow - are you saying kids get a "pass" and credit for a class they didn't attend or test in because they have a "diagnosis"?

That's horrifying.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 12:55 pm
by tribecalledquest
Drakey wrote:
sivert wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:...
Terry also didn't go to class the entire second semester.
...


Seems to me this has to be reported to NCAA. Not that the NCAA really cares about the Student-Athletes, but if they did, they should know this is what the $$ is doing.


Then did he flunk out? Can that even happen anymore? you never hear of an academically ineligible player. most teams used to have one or two every year.


No because he transferred.

It doesn’t matter if you are private or public. All a basketball player has to do is pass first semester. The second semester he plays regardless. He doesn’t technically fail until May.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 1:00 pm
by BCPanther
sivert wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
Drakey wrote:...

Universities, especially privates, can't afford to fail anyone. They have to have that revenue stream.

In the case of athletes, all they have to do is get a diagnosis of any kind (mental illness, anxiety, learning disability) and that more or less exempts them from any academic standard. It's bullshit and trivializes the conditions that 'everyday people' are suffering through but, you know, $$$$$$$$$.

Wow - are you saying kids get a "pass" and credit for a class they didn't attend or test in because they have a "diagnosis"?

That's horrifying.


It's awful but it's the cost of all the money in college athletics.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 1:15 pm
by sivert
tribecalledquest wrote:
Drakey wrote:Then did he flunk out? Can that even happen anymore? you never hear of an academically ineligible player. most teams used to have one or two every year.


No because he transferred.

It doesn’t matter if you are private or public. All a basketball player has to do is pass first semester. The second semester he plays regardless. He doesn’t technically fail until May.


I would think that failing your spring would invalidate you for the next fall? Perhaps not - I just don't see how this is helpful to the kids.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 1:19 pm
by Adunk33
When it came out, Illinois State promoted it as the first Collective in the MVC. ISU has a three person dept dedicated to it.

https://goredbirds.com/feature/vISUalize

Kendall Lewis has a merch line. Colton Sandage has done some promoted posts for a local realtor. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

https://twitter.com/EmpowertheNest

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 4th, 2023, 6:48 pm
by tribecalledquest
sivert wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:
Drakey wrote:Then did he flunk out? Can that even happen anymore? you never hear of an academically ineligible player. most teams used to have one or two every year.


No because he transferred.

It doesn’t matter if you are private or public. All a basketball player has to do is pass first semester. The second semester he plays regardless. He doesn’t technically fail until May.


I would think that failing your spring would invalidate you for the next fall? Perhaps not - I just don't see how this is helpful to the kids.


Oh. I'm not saying it's helpful to anyone.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 5th, 2023, 10:20 am
by SalukiBand
SIU has one that is specifically for football. I don't know if they have any involvement with any other sports of if there is a separate one for other sports.

Re: NIL Collective

PostPosted: January 5th, 2023, 10:33 am
by Saluki44
SalukiBand wrote:SIU has one that is specifically for football. I don't know if they have any involvement with any other sports of if there is a separate one for other sports.


Yeah, Southern hasn't promoted NIL as much as I'd like. Several of the basketball players have promoted deals with local businesses. I'm not sure if those were arranged through the same collective that exists for football. It's all sort of a mystery.