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Posted: **October 16th, 2023, 9:09 am**

siudawgs wrote:I think Murray is being given too much credit going into the preseason by many, considering:

1). They got blown out of the water in several games with this core group last year. Why? Something ain't quite right ... chemistry, coaching, leadership? Not sure, but something seems off.
2). They have one of the weakest frontcourts, on paper, in the league.
3). Their best player, Perry, is definitely a scorer, but is he a winning player/leader?

I am not one of those Murray-hating SIU people ... they definitely have a nice backcourt, but I see them as likely to be a bottom-half team, possibly in the 9th/10th range.

Posted: **December 18th, 2023, 8:43 pm**

TylerDurden wrote:
siudawgs wrote:I think Murray is being given too much credit going into the preseason by many, considering:

1). They got blown out of the water in several games with this core group last year. Why? Something ain't quite right ... chemistry, coaching, leadership? Not sure, but something seems off.
2). They have one of the weakest frontcourts, on paper, in the league.
3). Their best player, Perry, is definitely a scorer, but is he a winning player/leader?

I am not one of those Murray-hating SIU people ... they definitely have a nice backcourt, but I see them as likely to be a bottom-half team, possibly in the 9th/10th range.

Bump

Posted: **December 18th, 2023, 9:15 pm**

siudawgs called it. Probably the best prediction anyone here made preseason.

Posted: **December 18th, 2023, 10:22 pm**

This assessment rings true 1/3 of the way through the season. What's so odd is that we should have improved from last year. We have taken a step backwards and are continuing down the wrong path.

Posted: **December 19th, 2023, 8:28 am**

racernation wrote:This assessment rings true 1/3 of the way through the season. What's so odd is that we should have improved from last year. We have taken a step backwards and are continuing down the wrong path.

Prohm'd. He did the same thing at Iowa State, the only difference is he didn't get handed a roster with 7 NBA guys at Murray.

Posted: **December 19th, 2023, 9:57 am**

Not ready to throw in the towel just yet on our coach. We'll see how the rest of the season shakes out.

Posted: **December 20th, 2023, 9:09 am**

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:siudawgs called it. Probably the best prediction anyone here made preseason.

I think he may have given Murray too much credit, they are currently in 11th place based upon NET.

Hiring someone who has been paid quit-your-job money may not be a wise managerial decision. Compound that with the fact that he was the local boy (who would like to find a hobby) who was running a decent Big 12 program into the ground while being paid that money, and it escalates into a very bad decision.

Posted: **December 20th, 2023, 8:31 pm**

Prohm took over a tire fire with McMahon leaving and everyone joining him. They still have 2 top 150 prospects coming in

Posted: **December 21st, 2023, 6:48 am**

SalukiWorld wrote:Prohm took over a tire fire with McMahon leaving and everyone joining him. They still have 2 top 150 prospects coming in

He also took over a winning program at Iowa State and won a grand total of two games his sixth (and final) year there. Who do we blame for that?

Posted: **December 21st, 2023, 8:48 am**

Dawgbit wrote:
SalukiWorld wrote:Prohm took over a tire fire with McMahon leaving and everyone joining him. They still have 2 top 150 prospects coming in

He also took over a winning program at Iowa State and won a grand total of two games his sixth (and final) year there. Who do we blame for that?

I could have made a Sweet 16 with what he was left at Iowa State. Monte Morris, Georges Niang, Deonte Burton, Matt Thomas, Naz Long. Jameel McKay, Abdel Nader.

Just a stupid stacked roster.

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