Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 4th, 2024, 8:23 pmby DUBulldog
MissouriValleyUnite wrote:First Team:
Xavier Johnson (Southern Illinois)
Tucker DeVries (Drake)
Malevy Leons (Bradley)
Robbie Avila (Indiana State)
Darnell Brodie (Drake)
Second Team:
Duke Deen (Bradley)
Connor Hickman (Bradley)
Jason Kent (Indiana State)
Malik Dia (Belmont)
Cade Tyson (Belmont)
Third Team:
Nate Heise (Northern Iowa)
Ryan Conwell (Indiana State)
Isaiah Swope (Indiana State)
Julian Larry (Indiana State)
Alston Mason (Missouri State)
FOY: Johnny Kinzinger (Illinois State)
NOY: Malik Dia (Belmont)
6thMan: Xavier Bledson (Indiana State)
DPOY: Malevy Leons (Bradley)
COY: Josh Schertz (Indiana State)
MVP: Darnell Brodie (Drake)
Brodie as Player of the Year????? I thought it was a real stretch when I saw that you listed him as first team, but POY. NFW.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 4th, 2024, 8:44 pmby BCPanther
DUBulldog wrote:MissouriValleyUnite wrote:First Team:
Xavier Johnson (Southern Illinois)
Tucker DeVries (Drake)
Malevy Leons (Bradley)
Robbie Avila (Indiana State)
Darnell Brodie (Drake)
Second Team:
Duke Deen (Bradley)
Connor Hickman (Bradley)
Jason Kent (Indiana State)
Malik Dia (Belmont)
Cade Tyson (Belmont)
Third Team:
Nate Heise (Northern Iowa)
Ryan Conwell (Indiana State)
Isaiah Swope (Indiana State)
Julian Larry (Indiana State)
Alston Mason (Missouri State)
FOY: Johnny Kinzinger (Illinois State)
NOY: Malik Dia (Belmont)
6thMan: Xavier Bledson (Indiana State)
DPOY: Malevy Leons (Bradley)
COY: Josh Schertz (Indiana State)
MVP: Darnell Brodie (Drake)
Brodie as Player of the Year????? I thought it was a real stretch when I saw that you listed him as first team, but POY. NFW.
Indiana State's entire starting lineup is also a choice...
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 4th, 2024, 8:57 pmby MissouriValleyUnite
Darnell Brodie is insanely efficient. Who was the last Valley player to shoot 67+% while hauling 8+ RPG? If a possession is in his hands, there's very little chance of a missed shot. And if the other team has possession, there's a good chance he's grabbing the missed shot. He averaged 1-rebound-every-3-minutes.
Other players have higher counting points, but they take and miss way more shots to get there. And they don't haul in a rebound every 3 minutes like Brodie.
Brodie's efficiency (67.1% FG, 8.2 RPG) makes him the most valuable on a minute-per-minute basis, IMO.
For context, in conference play, the league only had
7 players shoot above 50% (17% below Brodie) and only 3 players haul in 8+ RPG. Only 1 player shot within 8% of Brodie.
https://mvc-sports.com/stats.aspx?path= ... &conf=true
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 4th, 2024, 9:23 pmby TylerDurden
My updated ballot:
Coach of the Year - Schertz, Indiana State - I still feel that this should be unanimous, but someone will vote DeVries 1st.
Player of the Year - I think this is a close race.
1. DeVries, Drake
2. Avila, Indiana State
3. Johnson, SIU
Newcomer of the Year - Conwell, Indiana State
Defensive Player of the Year - Leons, Bradley
All-Conference First Team
1. DeVries, Drake
2. Johnson, SIU
3. Conwell, Indiana State
4. Avila, Indiana State
5. Leons, Bradley
All-Conference Second Team
1. Kent, Indiana State
2. Tyson, Belmont
3. Brodie, Drake
4. Deen, Bradley
5. Dia, Belmont
All-Conference Third Team
1. Mason, Missouri State
2. Hickman, Bradley
3. Swope, Indiana State
4. Larry, Indiana State
5. Stafford, Valpo
I could shuffle a few between the second and third teams and I'm not sure Stafford will get a spot, but all in all, several guys put in good performances this year. I also don't have any UNI players, which seems odd for the No. 4 seed, but I don't really see a standout.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 5th, 2024, 5:48 amby municup14
Didn't know Jayson Kent of the Trees played 2 years at Bradley. Transfer portal has ruined college basketball.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 5th, 2024, 8:15 amby DUBulldog
municup14 wrote:Didn't know Jayson Kent of the Trees played 2 years at Bradley. Transfer portal has ruined college basketball.
I knew that, but I didn't know til yesterday that Kent and Avila were high school teammates.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 5th, 2024, 8:49 amby tribecalledquest
MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Darnell Brodie is insanely efficient. Who was the last Valley player to shoot 67+% while hauling 8+ RPG? If a possession is in his hands, there's very little chance of a missed shot. And if the other team has possession, there's a good chance he's grabbing the missed shot. He averaged 1-rebound-every-3-minutes.
Other players have higher counting points, but they take and miss way more shots to get there. And they don't haul in a rebound every 3 minutes like Brodie.
Brodie's efficiency (67.1% FG, 8.2 RPG) makes him the most valuable on a minute-per-minute basis, IMO.
For context, in conference play, the league only had
7 players shoot above 50% (17% below Brodie) and only 3 players haul in 8+ RPG. Only 1 player shot within 8% of Brodie.
https://mvc-sports.com/stats.aspx?path= ... &conf=true
If that is your standard wouldn’t Bradley’s Darius Hannah be a first teamer? He averaged 12.2 PPG, 6.4 RPG and shot 64% in league games. He also averaged over one blocked shot per game.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 5th, 2024, 9:16 amby bradley_townie
tribecalledquest wrote:MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Darnell Brodie is insanely efficient. Who was the last Valley player to shoot 67+% while hauling 8+ RPG? If a possession is in his hands, there's very little chance of a missed shot. And if the other team has possession, there's a good chance he's grabbing the missed shot. He averaged 1-rebound-every-3-minutes.
Other players have higher counting points, but they take and miss way more shots to get there. And they don't haul in a rebound every 3 minutes like Brodie.
Brodie's efficiency (67.1% FG, 8.2 RPG) makes him the most valuable on a minute-per-minute basis, IMO.
For context, in conference play, the league only had
7 players shoot above 50% (17% below Brodie) and only 3 players haul in 8+ RPG. Only 1 player shot within 8% of Brodie.
https://mvc-sports.com/stats.aspx?path= ... &conf=true
If that is your standard wouldn’t Bradley’s Darius Hannah be a first teamer? He averaged 12.2 PPG, 6.4 RPG and shot 64% in league games. He also averaged over one blocked shot per game.
Darius also averaged 1.5 steals/game to Brodie's 0.7.
If we're really parsing these numbers out, Jayson Kent is averaging 8 rebounds/game and if he didn't shoot threes would blow both Brodie and Darius out of the water with 74% FG%.
Re: All-Conference Teams
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March 5th, 2024, 9:41 amby Bulldog4life24
Yo I'm a Drake fan and I love Brodie, but this argument is crazy. There's no way Brodie is POY, and I mean that as no disparagement.
Efficient bigs are noteworthy certainly, but one of the stats you're looking for is Winshare. Brodie isn't even top 2 on Drake's roster (he's 3rd), much less then MVC as a whole.