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Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 17th, 2014, 6:00 pm
by Wufan
Aargh wrote:The Mulder "commitment" was what tipped me off that Marshall was done.


Per Jeff Goodman, WSU has inquired about Semi…

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 17th, 2014, 9:43 pm
by Aargh
Wufan wrote:
Aargh wrote:The Mulder "commitment" was what tipped me off that Marshall was done.


Per Jeff Goodman, WSU has inquired about Semi…

That inquiry could have been whether Ojeleye is going Juco for a year and would consider transferring at semester break next year and pay in-state tuition for one semester. Also might want to be in consideration in case some current players have injuries (or worse) that keeps them out of basketball for an extended period..

I can't quite equate inquiring with recruiting.

I believe Ojeleye would only have the rest of this year for eligibility in a JuCo, but a JuCo might be willing to give him two semesters of tuition (especially a Kansas JuCo) for a second semester (majority of the season and NJCAA championships) of play.

That way, he'd only have to be inactive in games for one semester instead of 2 and could pick a D1 destination that doesn't have any scholarships for second semester this year.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 18th, 2014, 12:36 am
by 2livewu
Conner is a walk on pure and simple. Discussing him as anything different than Zach Bush is meaningless at this point.

Semi is interested in WSU and WSU is interested in Semi. Coach Okon has a relationship there, albeit a small relationship. We'll see what happens.

Nobody wants to see players come and go every year, but just like fans aren't perfect, coaches and yes players aren't perfect. It's the job of coaches to win and, imho, find somewhere where the student athletes can succeed.

Every 4 year kid has graduated with a degree when Gregg was his coach. We can rehash every transfer out of Gregg's program if you would like.....I don't know if it will make you feel better or not.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 18th, 2014, 8:32 am
by Redbird Recon
Is there any dead weight on the Shox roster currently?

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 18th, 2014, 11:42 am
by Wufan
Redbird Recon wrote:Is there any dead weight on the Shox roster currently?


I would say no, however freshman Zach Brown and JUCO Tevin Glass are quite clearly the # 12 and 13 players on the roster.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 18th, 2014, 12:57 pm
by 2livewu
Redbird Recon wrote:Is there any dead weight on the Shox roster currently?


In my opinion, we have 6 players that are proven to be able to compete on a top 20 program.

VanVleet, Baker, Carter, Cotton, Wessel and Kelly are no doubters.

At this point Nurger and Holland have proven they can be very successful against top 100 type teams. If they continue to develop, they'll be fine. Nurger could be a star eventually. Holland probably has a mid ceiling because of his size, but I love his heart. He's finding his niche.

Those 8 could all be MVC champs for whatever years they are at WSU.

Shaq is an odd dude. Supremely talented. Unbelievably slow motor. If this kid had VanVleet's motor he'd be in the NBA next year. But that's a pipe dream. He's often compared to JT Durley. JT's motor was just fine on the court, he didn't like practicing or conditioning but turn the lights on and he was good, even as a freshman. It's not that way with Shaq. He'll have a couple of games against random teams in conference and opponents will be like "how is he not starting" and "that kid is unstoppable" .....the rest of the time not so much. If he ever buys in watch out but I sincerely doubt that ever happens, I just don't think he has it in him.

Corey Henderson is being brought along nicely. I probably like this kid more than most, but he'll be a star at WSU.

Certainly Gregg missed on both jucos this year. Big Bush has been slow to catch on and Glass has been disappointing. Neither is likely to see meaningful minutes and both have to be fighting for a scholarship next year, at a minimum. Fans that aren't fans of jucos got their proof this season. Missing on jucos will cost this team a chance to compete for the biggest prize.

Finally, Zach Brown's athletic skill set belongs at any school not named Kentucky (and might there too). Has a lot of work to do, but I can't see him going anywhere. Way way way too much upside even if he doesn't play much this year.

At a minimum, there are 3 question marks (Glass, Wamukota, Morris) to return with Morris by FAR and away the most likely to stay. The coaches are certainly preparing for Baker to leave. With 2 seniors using up their eligibility, any fewer than 5 incoming kids seems like a mistake to me. And right now 4 is the number we have coming in (Conner will NOT be on scholarship so he doesn't count) so when you hear we are still recruiting, believe it. Again, all of this just my opinion.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 20th, 2014, 6:16 pm
by 2livewu
Not my opinion:

http://hoopniks.com/conference-catch-up ... ri-valley/



This ranking doesn't include Conner. Anyone that thinks they're making inroads against the Shockers is hoping against hope.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 22nd, 2014, 5:13 pm
by Wufan
Officially out of the running for Semi.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2014, 12:15 am
by RoyalShock
But we are in the running for:

Jack LeGwin @jacklegwin
Jalek Felton tells me 5 schools will get visits this January: Kentucky, Arizona, Kansas, UNC and Wichita State.

Re: WSU trying to cash in on recruiting with recent success

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2015, 7:41 pm
by WhiskeySierraUniform
RoyalShock wrote:But we are in the running for:

Jack LeGwin @jacklegwin
Jalek Felton tells me 5 schools will get visits this January: Kentucky, Arizona, Kansas, UNC and Wichita State.


Recently committed to North Carolina.