Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:TheAsianSensation wrote:I think St Louis has a better chance at the Big East than Dayton. Remember going to 11 and stopping is purely to satisfy the TV partner. I think St Louis is marginally better than Dayton, but neither move the needle too much. VCU and Wichita aren't institutional fits; Richmond is a darkhorse but doesn't move the TV needle. But in the end, you need to improve basketball television inventory and none of private schools provide this benefit.
I just can't see UConn at the moment; any move to the Big East would require some agreement that UConn is done pursuing a P5 and they are years and years away from giving up that dream. I think the Big East holds until that day comes.
I still think going to 12 with UConn and a western partner is endgame for the BEast, and I encourage Wichita St to remain vigilant about this.
I do think if Dayton gets pried from the A-10, St Louis is not long for there; you can get to the Big East from the MVC. But make no mistake, the A-10 is still in better position than the MVC overall. I don't think we'll ever lure Dayton over here.
I'd much rather be in the mvc than the a-10. The A-10 has a higher ceiling but also a lower floor. Even losing wichita the mvc is going to continue to bounce between the 9th-12th best conference. The A-10 is unstable. VCU and Dayton are not long for the A-10. SLU won't last long after that, either. The conference rank will drop dramatically. LaSalle and Duquesne don't scare too many people. Davidson doesn't have steph Curry anymore. St. Joseph's will be the best left and who will the A-10 add to bring them significantly back up the rankings? Richmond? Please. They'll be in the same spot the MVC is in now. Nobody to add to replace what they lost. The difference is the MVC has to replace one good program with a lesser. The A-10 will have to add three. Good luck A-10 and enjoy the present because you're about to be a low mid-major conference within 10 years.
I think everyone overestimates the chances of teams leaving that conference. Big East probably isn't going to call. AAC is pretty full, and even if they lose a couple teams they don't have to backfill. Dayton is likely there for the long haul. VCU can be debatable.
Further down, I trust programs like George Washington, Bonaventure, St Joe's, URI, and UMass to be more relevant on a national stage. Those teams will at least peak and be legitimate at-large players once every few years. St Louis, Davidson, VCU, Dayton. More depth in the conference. In the MVC, all we've had among current members in the last decade is UNI, plus a couple half-hearted IlSU attempts and a couple Missouri St jobbings.