December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby Ace Dad » November 30th, 2012, 11:26 pm

"There's a reason why McD is a pre-season AA and a national PoY candidate, but is projected at #70 in the NBA draft if he were to declare for the NBA."


I do not like NBA basketball and do not follow it very much. Which site provides the best predictions? I saw these two:

#22 http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

#46 http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/
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Postby C0|db|00ded » December 1st, 2012, 12:22 am

Aargh wrote:
valleychamp wrote:Aargh has, Wufan. That is why I questioned his post.

I'm supposed to apologize or something for supporting the members of the team I support?

Basketball is played on two ends of the court. J.T. Durley may have scored in the 12-point range through his first 3 years at WSU, but he was giving up 20 or so on the other end of the court. He got some boards, but he was still a negative points guy because of his D in his first 3 years at WSU.

Doug McDermott has glitzy stats on points and rebounds, but he doesn't play D and he's not that effective against athletic PF's who are quicker than he is. Doug is an outstanding player, but his stats are a bit padded by the system CU plays. There's a reason why McD is a pre-season AA and a national PoY candidate, but is projected at #70 in the NBA draft if he were to declare for the NBA.

I reserve my appreciation for players with a complete game - those who play both ends of the court. I also have a lot of fondness for players who get their stats as part of their team - rather than being their team.


This post is pretty much as accurate of an account of the situation as you are going to get. Well said Aargh!


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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby C0|db|00ded » December 1st, 2012, 12:28 am

Wufan wrote:The biggest reason why has been 6-8 juco transfer Cleanthony Early, whom Marshall -- back in November 2011 -- called "the most complete offensive player I have recruited in my tenure at Wichita State". Early has backed that up by posting a nearly identical usage/efficiency profile to the Valley's most famous player, Creighton's Doug McDermott, albeit in fewer minutes…"

Number 16, at the bottom: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... =cb_t11_a0


Oopsie.

And SoW could only dream of being the kind of athlete and defensive presence Cle' has been for us.


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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby Heinro » December 1st, 2012, 5:19 pm

Bad day for the Valley unfortunately. Didn't embarrass ourselves in any game, but got no big help for the RPI either.
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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby GoShockers89 » December 1st, 2012, 5:22 pm

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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby Heinro » December 1st, 2012, 5:26 pm

Yes, league RPI could be drastically better with just a few more of those. What is even worse is I think there is even more parity in the league this year. I'm sensing a lot of bad RPI losses through conference play for multiple teams.
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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby MVCfans » December 1st, 2012, 6:09 pm

Really good showing by MVC teams for the most part, but not much to show in the W column.
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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby Snaggletooth » December 1st, 2012, 6:29 pm

MVC off to great start today with 5-1 start (1 win and 4 moral victories).
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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby Wufan » December 1st, 2012, 8:58 pm

UNI up 7 with 1:35 to go.
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Re: December 1 - Huge day for the Valley

Postby pafan » December 1st, 2012, 9:00 pm

Snaggletooth wrote:MVC off to great start today with 5-1 start (1 win and 4 moral victories).

Day ends at 6-1 if we're still counting moral victories.
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