Jan. 17th-18th Games

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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby bleach » January 20th, 2015, 1:29 pm

Marcus Marshall isn't/wasn't a Sophomore.
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby glm38 » January 20th, 2015, 1:42 pm

bleach wrote:Marcus Marshall isn't/wasn't a Sophomore.


He would be if the medical red shirt comes through for last year. My understanding is he can apply for that at the end of this year.
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby 2livewu » January 20th, 2015, 1:50 pm

I love Morgan's game and if I were putting together a roster of current Valley players with the goal to win as many games as I could over the next 2.5 seasons, he'd be one of my 13.

However, the best defensive guard will continue to reside in the 316 after Cotton graduates this year.
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby Wufan » January 20th, 2015, 7:49 pm

PantherSigEp wrote:After Cotton graduates this year I'd be confident in saying that Morgan will be the top defensive guard in the Valley. His speed, length and athleticism are a huge reasons the Panthers have caused more turnovers than assists this year (.70 opposing Assist/TO ratio in MVC play; .74 overall) and I'd love to see just how many are a result of Morgan being aggressive and stripping a ball or tipping a "safe" pass. I'd wager he's been involved in about 60-70% of our "steals" this year even if he wasn't the one who came up with it. The only real flaw in his game is that his aggressiveness has gotten him into foul trouble the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see him step up and take on a greater offensive role next year when Deon and Seth graduate and Wes will be our main scoring threat. Guys like Morgan, Lohaus and Koch will need to "grow up" fast and be willing to be a bit more selfish with the ball. Those 3 are all really promising talents at the moment.


I have a bias towards Baker being the second best guard in the Valley. VanVleet is also exceptional. I know ISU fans have a fondness for Paris Lee. Jeremy Morgan is certainly an excellent defender. I'm leaving some out, but no doubt the above mentioned group is very strong.
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby glm38 » January 20th, 2015, 9:12 pm

Wufan wrote:
PantherSigEp wrote:After Cotton graduates this year I'd be confident in saying that Morgan will be the top defensive guard in the Valley. His speed, length and athleticism are a huge reasons the Panthers have caused more turnovers than assists this year (.70 opposing Assist/TO ratio in MVC play; .74 overall) and I'd love to see just how many are a result of Morgan being aggressive and stripping a ball or tipping a "safe" pass. I'd wager he's been involved in about 60-70% of our "steals" this year even if he wasn't the one who came up with it. The only real flaw in his game is that his aggressiveness has gotten him into foul trouble the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see him step up and take on a greater offensive role next year when Deon and Seth graduate and Wes will be our main scoring threat. Guys like Morgan, Lohaus and Koch will need to "grow up" fast and be willing to be a bit more selfish with the ball. Those 3 are all really promising talents at the moment.


I have a bias towards Baker being the second best guard in the Valley. VanVleet is also exceptional. I know ISU fans have a fondness for Paris Lee. Jeremy Morgan is certainly an excellent defender. I'm leaving some out, but no doubt the above mentioned group is very strong.


Baker is the 2nd best guard in the Valley? Who is #1? VanVleet? I would put Baker as the #1 player. I don't think I've seen a better all around MVC player since ???....
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby Wufan » January 20th, 2015, 9:23 pm

glm38 wrote:
Wufan wrote:
PantherSigEp wrote:After Cotton graduates this year I'd be confident in saying that Morgan will be the top defensive guard in the Valley. His speed, length and athleticism are a huge reasons the Panthers have caused more turnovers than assists this year (.70 opposing Assist/TO ratio in MVC play; .74 overall) and I'd love to see just how many are a result of Morgan being aggressive and stripping a ball or tipping a "safe" pass. I'd wager he's been involved in about 60-70% of our "steals" this year even if he wasn't the one who came up with it. The only real flaw in his game is that his aggressiveness has gotten him into foul trouble the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see him step up and take on a greater offensive role next year when Deon and Seth graduate and Wes will be our main scoring threat. Guys like Morgan, Lohaus and Koch will need to "grow up" fast and be willing to be a bit more selfish with the ball. Those 3 are all really promising talents at the moment.


I have a bias towards Baker being the second best guard in the Valley. VanVleet is also exceptional. I know ISU fans have a fondness for Paris Lee. Jeremy Morgan is certainly an excellent defender. I'm leaving some out, but no doubt the above mentioned group is very strong.


Baker is the 2nd best guard in the Valley? Who is #1? VanVleet? I would put Baker as the #1 player. I don't think I've seen a better all around MVC player since ???....


Defensively, this year, I have Cotton #1 and Baker #2. There have been games where those are switched, especially early in the year. I do agree with you that Baker is the best all around player in the Valley. He does EVERYTHING!
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby aceslifer » January 20th, 2015, 9:32 pm

to my mind, van vleet is the weakest pre-season all-American choice ever selected
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby Wufan » January 20th, 2015, 9:46 pm

aceslifer wrote:to my mind, van vleet is the weakest pre-season all-American choice ever selected


He's horrible! I wish we didn't have to deal with him.
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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby SHOXMVC » January 20th, 2015, 10:23 pm

aceslifer wrote:to my mind, van vleet is the weakest pre-season all-American choice ever selected


Just started watching basketball, huh?

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Re: Jan. 17th-18th Games

Postby Cdizzle » January 20th, 2015, 11:35 pm

SHOXMVC wrote:
aceslifer wrote:to my mind, van vleet is the weakest pre-season all-American choice ever selected


Just started watching basketball, huh?

:Bam:

More like, new to trolling. Not a very spirited effort.
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